Support and General Use > User Interface and Voice
Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
Febs:
--- Quote from: RowaN on May 08, 2006, 09:09:28 AM ---Wow I can't beleive this thread is still going hehe. I've been half way around the world and back since I started it. I really like Falco98's suggestion of long hold left.. that would be improving on the iriver's feature because as you said, you can get back to the root as normal without accidently going into the WPS. Must learn how to compile rockbox myself... or perform a jedi mind trick on the devs to get this implemented haha. This is the feature you are looking for. =p
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How is that an improvement? That functionality exists right now. All you're doing is adding existing functionality to a different button that could otherwise be used for something else productive. Just one example that comes to mind: long press of the left button goes to the folder above the present folder in the same level of the file tree hierarchy. That would be great for navigating easily from one disc of a 2-disc set to the other.
This example is just the first thing that came to mind but it doesn't make sense to have two keys do the same thing when there are only a limited number of keys to work with.
Falco98:
--- Quote from: Febs on May 08, 2006, 09:33:30 AM ---That functionality exists right now. All you're doing is adding existing functionality to a different button that could otherwise be used for something else productive. Just one example that comes to mind: long press of the left button goes to the folder above the present folder in the same level of the file tree hierarchy. That would be great for navigating easily from one disc of a 2-disc set to the other.
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The point is a simple matter of good UI: don't force the user to go way out of his way to undo something: in this case, clicking the select button goes into the file tree, but (especially if you're using it one-handed) you must change your grip completely to then hit the "play" button. Plus, as other menus can be exited using the "left" button, it's unintuitive.
Your example ignores the main point of this thread (unless i've missed something major in what you said): the "long left" would ONLY work from the ROOT. And for the unfamiliar, that means you are not in ANY subfolder of ANYthing. Currently a long-press of the Left key from a subfolder zooms you back to root, and there's no need to change this functionality, even if my suggestion were to be implemented. The action you seem to want (going up one folder level, right?) is already accomplished by a single press of the "left" key... that or i really missed your point.
Llorean:
You just clarified that you don't understand the UI concept of Rockbox. As you said 'other menus can be exited using the "left" button'. The furthest you can "exit" to is the root file tree. Not the WPS.
markun:
With so many people wanting this feature there must be at least one of you able to code and write a patch. Then everyone is happy and we don't have to talk about it anymore.
--- Quote from: Falco98 on May 09, 2006, 12:33:31 AM ---...don't force the user...
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There is not a big difference between developers and users. We are all users and some of us learned how to code.
Falco98:
--- Quote from: Llorean on May 09, 2006, 12:58:29 AM ---You just clarified that you don't understand the UI concept of Rockbox. As you said 'other menus can be exited using the "left" button'. The furthest you can "exit" to is the root file tree. Not the WPS.
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so pressing "select" on the WPS "exits" the WPS to go the filetree? that's counter-intuitive too, but easy enough that we don't mind. the irksomeness enters into the equation when someone can access, navigate through, and perform complex operations in the filetree all with joystick operation, but then when they feel like viewing the WPS again they have to reach around to hit something completely different. It's especially pestersome when it was just an accidental click that took us away from the WPS in the first place...
in PC user interface critiques this would be called an "unnecessary switch from mouse to keyboard"... i can do X, Y, and Z with the mouse, but then to get back to where i was before, for some reason i'm required to reach across and hit the "A" key or something.
I'll live with the filetree as being the real "main" level, that doesn't mean the WPS shouldn't be given some easier access.
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