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Pressing LEFT to get to WPS from file root
stripwax:
I agree with previous. My 2c: If the Browser is the 'main screen' then how come it's not possible to play music without always going to the WPS screen? Surely that would make the WPS the main screen, since that's the screen that always appears when you play music, when you turn the device on, etc.
Or, given that the mp3 player has no 'Back' button, and that the only way to go from the WPS to the Browser is to press the Select button (which presumably must mean 'Back' if the Browser is indeed supposed to be the 'main screen'), then how come pressing Select in all the other menus doesn't also take you back to the Browser?
I'd really have a hard time justifying to a new rockbox user that the Browser is the 'main screen' given the above.
If it's possible to rationalise this behaviour, then great, but I've still yet to get a working mental map and I've been using rockbox for over a year now.
Llorean:
Well, let's start with the WPS does NOT appear when you boot up by default. You seem to have forgotten that you enabled auto-resume, or something.
When you first boot up, if you haven't changed settings, you'll always boot into the file tree.
The select button is "Invoke". Or "Click" if you will. If you click on a file, it runs. If you click on a menu entry, it takes you to the result. If you click on the WPS, it clears to the filetree, much like some *very* temporary windows that display text and say "Click to continue" without even prompting you as to where.
Honestly, I had used Rockbox for less than 3 hours before the mental map made sense to me. I'm not saying I'm typical, but it's entirely possible that you aren't either.
Regardless, it's neither your software nor mine, and it's pointless to argue over it as it's a matter of preference either way, and the people who have control over it get to pick which preference is chosen. Being open source, you're free to make your own build.
Mikerman:
With all due respect, one of the purposes of this forum, I think, is for users to express their opinions as users, possibly to try to encourage the developers. I realize that this firmware is open source and that one always can change it, but not being an engineer or with any amount of computer expertise, let's face it--I can't. (I'm happy if I can patch it. ;) ) Hopefully, the devs listen to the users as to actual user needs and preferences, and that a sympathetic dev then considers a requested feature or implementation.
I still am using patched firmware that allows me to get to the WPS by pressing the joystick left, and it is a standard and valued feature for me. It seems a relatively simple implementation to me, from the original patch; but hey, what do I know--I studied Spanish medieval literature in college.
Part of the frustration with the player manufacturers is that they don't listen--part of the reason why users like Rockbox is because Rockbox does. I hope it always stays that way.
Llorean:
Well, normally I'm all for users suggesting things, but when a few of the original devs have come in and said they don't like the idea (I think one mentioned needing to be dragged kicking and screaming) and the topic's been discussed several times with the devs standing pretty solid, it starts to feel like it's time for people to start accepting that maybe the core devs' user interface philosophies are different than theirs, and either learn to love it or come up with a way to compensate for it as you have by running a patched build.
There are arguments against adding this code as an option that can boil down to "It makes the Archos binary larger." Basically, options that would affect all targets (as this one necessarily would) have to be weighed in as being pretty solidly valuable. This one doesn't have practical value, so much as a minor convenience / preference. Yes, it's tiny as a patch, but several tiny things do add up. You've basically got the core devs against it as an interface design issue, and practical reasons why it's not a good idea to add it even as a user configurable option.
Unfortunately even though it's an open source project, not everyone can be made happy in every way.
rdtyphn:
"Hopefully, the devs listen to the users as to actual user needs and preferences, and that a sympathetic dev then considers a requested feature or implementation."
I agree completely.
This is a small feature that would make a lot of people very happy.
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