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Offline etien

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Ipod 2G (20GB) Installation of ipodpatcher failed. Firewire?
« on: August 16, 2007, 07:56:06 PM »
Hi there

As there isn't a specific thread yet for Ipod 2G, I thought Hardware was the most likely issue (or rather, the second most likely after end-useritis).

Following a successful install of RB to an Ipod Photo, I have convinced my bro to give it a try on his trusty old 2G. Now these, to the best of my knowledge only ever came in Firewire flavour.

I've restored the software to Windows/FAT32 with the Macbook Pro running Windows, unzipped the build to root, but although the computer sees the ipod fine, after unmounting the drive (not ejecting) and launching ipodpatcher I get an error message:

[INFO] Scanning disk devices...
[ERR]  No ipods found, aborting
[ERR]  Please connect your ipod and ensure it is in disk mode
[ERR]  Also ensure that itunes is closed, and that your ipod is not mounted.
[ERR]  Please refer to the Rockbox manual if you continue to have problems.


I have tried resetting and starting in disk mode, same message.



As Firewire To USB Adapters don't exist, I was curious as to how the devs had managed to get this to work!

Thanks a lot
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Re: Ipod 2G (20GB) Installation of ipodpatcher failed. Firewire?
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2007, 08:58:13 PM »
You could have posted this to the Apple Installation/Removal topic, since you are asking an installation question.

That is a stumper, though. I was always wondering this, myself.
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Re: Ipod 2G (20GB) Installation of ipodpatcher failed. Firewire?
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2007, 01:19:23 AM »
I'm pretty sure the ipodpatcher binary hasn't been updated yet -- i.e. if you want to install the bootloader you need to build ipodpatcher from svn yourself.
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Offline linuxstb

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Re: Ipod 2G (20GB) Installation of ipodpatcher failed. Firewire?
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2007, 03:01:05 AM »
Quote from: bluebrother on August 17, 2007, 01:19:23 AM
I'm pretty sure the ipodpatcher binary hasn't been updated yet -- i.e. if you want to install the bootloader you need to build ipodpatcher from svn yourself.

That's exactly the problem - there is no official bootloader released for the 2G yet, and the current release version of ipodpatcher won't recognise the 2G either.

You'll need to either wait until the 2G port is officially available, or build ipodpatcher and the bootloader yourself from SVN.
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Offline etien

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Re: Ipod 2G (20GB) Installation of ipodpatcher failed. Firewire?
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2007, 04:18:56 AM »
I was afraid I was gonna get this answer  ;D

My knowledge in code stops at a few VBA macros for Excel, so I'm going to have to let the big guns get on with it and be patient!

Let it be known I've got a 2G ready to welcome and test Rockbox when there's a bootloader on the go.

Cheers all

ps I didn't want to post in this section as the subtext specified which models should be discussed, and the 2G wasn't one of them. I thought you could argue that Firewire being the problem, and Firewire being both a hardware and software format, my question had its place in Hardware... Thanks for moving the topic  ;)
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Re: Ipod 2G (20GB) Installation of ipodpatcher failed. Firewire?
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2007, 01:25:20 AM »
That answered my question too .. another 2G user who was trying to instal rockbox for the first time. I ran the Apple iPod Updater but still no recognition. Specifically, I get the following (note the parameter 1 - if this is omited the message is more vague):

C:\Documents and Settings\M.BFF\Desktop>ipodpatcher.exe 1
ipodpatcher v1.0 with v1.1 bootloaders - (C) Dave Chapman 2006-2007
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

[INFO] Reading partition table from \\.\PhysicalDrive1
[INFO] Sector size is 512 bytes
[INFO] Part    Start Sector    End Sector   Size (MB)   Type
[INFO]    0              63         80324        39.2   Empty (0x00)
[INFO]    1           80325      39054014     19030.1   W95 FAT32 (0x0b)
[ERR] Unknown version number in firmware (00000130)
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Re: Ipod 2G (20GB) Installation of ipodpatcher failed. Firewire?
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2007, 10:40:21 AM »
I've got the same problem with the 1G ipod.  I was able to unzip the file onto the IPOD but ipodpatcher won't recognize it.  Not sure what to do as the 1G only has firewire?  Any suggestions?

Thanks to whoever went the extra mile to create a version for 1G/2G ipods!
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Re: Ipod 2G (20GB) Installation of ipodpatcher failed. Firewire?
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2007, 10:57:25 AM »
there are no bootloader for the ipods 1G + 2G. It simply won't work. You'll just have to wait until one is released.
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Re: Ipod 2G (20GB) Installation of ipodpatcher failed. Firewire?
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2007, 10:58:06 AM »
There are bootloaders for the 1st and 2nd generation iPods. There is no version of iPodPatcher for installing the botloader. iPodPatcher and the bootloaders are two different things, and it is important that people not get them confused.
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Offline Chronon

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Re: Ipod 2G (20GB) Installation of ipodpatcher failed. Firewire?
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2007, 08:40:30 PM »
Could they do something like the old instructions for installing via linux?  (I.e., use dd and make_fw to do the installation from a Linux box.)
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Re: Ipod 2G (20GB) Installation of ipodpatcher failed. Firewire?
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2007, 03:23:06 AM »
There is no need for that.  There is both a working 1g2g bootloader and working support for the 1g/2g for ipodpatcher in SVN, it's just that they're not released yet.  

So a user wanting to experiment with the 1g/2g port can build the bootloader and ipodpatcher from svn and install.  
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Re: Ipod 2G (20GB) Installation of ipodpatcher failed. Firewire?
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2007, 03:27:34 AM »
Cool!  Although I'm not one of those users.   :)
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Re: Ipod 2G (20GB) Installation of ipodpatcher failed. Firewire?
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2007, 06:05:19 AM »
Just realized that Rockbox Utility (http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtilityQt) should be able to recognize and install on those Ipods -- it was build after the 1G / 2G got added and it includes a recent ipodpatcher from svn.

(Besides, it would be really interesting to get feedback about Rockbox Utility ;) )
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Re: Ipod 2G (20GB) Installation of ipodpatcher failed. Firewire?
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2007, 06:46:14 AM »
Quote from: bluebrother on September 05, 2007, 06:05:19 AM
Just realized that Rockbox Utility (http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtilityQt) should be able to recognize and install on those Ipods -- it was build after the 1G / 2G got added and it includes a recent ipodpatcher from svn.

(Besides, it would be really interesting to get feedback about Rockbox Utility ;) )

Yes, but there is no bootloader on the server for rbutil to download and install....
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Offline etien

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Re: Ipod 2G (20GB) Installation of ipodpatcher failed. Firewire?
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2007, 09:00:50 AM »
Quote from: Llorean on September 01, 2007, 10:58:06 AM
iPodPatcher and the bootloaders are two different things, and it is important that people not get them confused.

Was a slip of the tongue (as it were) on my part. I actually meant Ipodpatcher and I do know the difference  :P

I really ought to learn how to compile, I'd be really curious to see how the thing works on an iPod 2G.
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