Batt problem(Nano)

[Kakoo]

Hello!
Guys I'm having a little problem with my battery. I guess that my battery had a full discharg, in Apple's site it's said that you must connect your iPod and do a master reset(hold combo + Menu and select); 'till here, all right, than it's said that an icon will appear and a text saying "Please Wait. Very Low Battery" and it's said that you may must leave it for at least 30 minutes but my iPod it's almost the whole day and nothing! Is my battery out of usage? Or there is something else that i can do? I don't have the wall charger.
Thanks!
              Kakoo

[Febs]

Did you actually do the reset by pressing and holding Menu and Select simultaneously?  It's hard to tell from your post.

[Kakoo]

Did you actually do the reset by pressing and holding Menu and Select simultaneously?  It's hard to tell from your post.

Yes. In this point i'm already a professional =)

[Kakoo]

First, sorry about of double post. But I would like to know a solution soon, 'cause my warranty is about to expire, and i need to find my bill of sale, so I'm  in a little trouble. Please, if someone could help me soon.
Thanks;
             Kakoo
(again, sorry about the double post)

[Febs]

What happens when you do the reset?

[Kakoo]

What happens when you do the reset?

Well it automatically goes an apple screen like this and stay spinning forever, I guess that it is around 10 hours plugged on USB and nothing happens.

EDIT: Well if this helps, i used the Rockbox charge function these days, just to know how it is, could it overcharged or someting like my battery?
(sorry about my poor english)

[bascule]

This is a known issue - you will just have to wait longer

It can take 2-3 days of charging to recover from a deep discharge, but it will recover

[Kakoo]

  well at least it will work again!
Thanks to Febs and bascule for everything!
You guys rock!!

EDIT: well i guess that this post can be closed  

[polygonal]

Actually it does not need 2-3 days of charging. It happens to me once, and what I did is to wait for about 15 minutes for the ipod to charge enough to boot into the normal firmware, and I reset the ipod. It should boot into the (normal) original firmware, and from that you can continue to charge but it should take much shorter and your ipod should be functional once you charge it enough.

EDIT: forgot to mention, if you already installed rockbox, you will need to press the necessary buttons to boot your ipod into the (normal) original firmware.

[bascule]

Actually it does not need 2-3 days of charging.

That is not necessarily true. I experienced the problem myself and was able to advise others on the forum (to a successful conclusion) with the same problem on their nano's.

The problem is that so much is unknown about the Apple hardware and hardware revisions are made even within a model version that it is a constant struggle to keep on top of them. Witness the recent nano 'crashing' problems. On identical (but recent) Rockbox versions some people experience constant crashing and other, like myself, have had no problems.

[polygonal]

Actually it does not need 2-3 days of charging.

That is not necessarily true. I experienced the problem myself and was able to advise others on the forum (to a successful conclusion) with the same problem on their nano's.

The problem is that so much is unknown about the Apple hardware and hardware revisions are made even within a model version that it is a constant struggle to keep on top of them. Witness the recent nano 'crashing' problems. On identical (but recent) Rockbox versions some people experience constant crashing and other, like myself, have had no problems.

Maybe I'm wrong then, but I have a feeling that something is wrong with the low-battery screen that it does not know how to exit itself. There is no way an ipod needs 2-3 days of charging to be above "low-battery". I personally will try boot into the normal firmware as soon as possible - it might help and it certainly won't hurt.

[Kakoo]

Ahm....now I'm getting nervous.... is there a solution or not? 'cause my iPod is about 40 hours on USB and still showing the very low battery screen, even if do a reset by hold combo+ menu and select combo.

[polygonal]

Maybe try disconnecting from USB and connecting again? And according to the 2-3 day theory, you possibly need to wait as much as 72 hours. Have some patience.

[Kakoo]

Okay, i will be patient...have an iPod every time is not too good, after that you can´t live without it!

[gnu]

If everything fails, you could still take the battery out and connect it to the PCB of a cellphone battery, and then charge it with the cellphone.
But that's a last desperate measure