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Ipod hard lock while Paused... workaround inside!
yegods:
sorry, just thought of a third reason:
there seems to be a misrepresentation that this problem is because of a low or dead battery. this is totally untrue in a lot of cases. they seem to have the same symptoms, but i suspect they have different causes.
GodEater:
Could you please stop double posting ?
yegods:
sorry man... i didn't know there was a modify function.
but now that you've posted... why are no devs interested in this problem? i suspect it is affecting more than just Ipods. there is something crudded up about the Pause functionality. Removing it has totally gotten rid of any hard locks for me. this makes my Rockbox experience 200% better at least.
yet i scan through the bug postings and see all these bugs about freezing... most of them related to Pause... seems it would be a bigger issue. very curious.
Llorean:
1) Why do you suspect it happens to more than iPods if nobody has reported it for a non-iPod?
2) Where are "all these bugs about freezing" that specifically mention Pausing? I've not noticed a particular trend to Pausing, but if you could cite all the examples, I'll certainly investigate.
Considering I both have an iPod and pause it frequently, I think if we're going to make assumptions, one of the big ones is "it doesn't affect all iPods, so the developers will need one that experiences this problem to investigate it further, unless you're willing to investigate it yourself, because it's very hard to fix something you can't see." And of course, removing the Pause function doesn't *fix* anything.
yegods:
--- Quote ---1) Why do you suspect it happens to more than iPods if nobody has reported it for a non-iPod?
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personally, i'm suspecting that no one has put it together, that Pause is causing this problem... that's why no one has reported that specific bug. however, if you look through the bugs, you'll begin to see there might be a connection... here are some: 7109, 7304, 6846, 6973, 6606, 5987, and on and on, not all involving Ipod.
--- Quote ---2) Where are "all these bugs about freezing" that specifically mention Pausing? I've not noticed a particular trend to Pausing, but if you could cite all the examples, I'll certainly investigate.
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see above
--- Quote ---Considering I both have an iPod and pause it frequently, I think if we're going to make assumptions, one of the big ones is "it doesn't affect all iPods, so the developers will need one that experiences this problem to investigate it further, unless you're willing to investigate it yourself, because it's very hard to fix something you can't see." And of course, removing the Pause function doesn't *fix* anything.
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i fairly certain that you're right. it doesn't seem to affect all ipods, but it certainly does affect more than just mine. i never said that removing the Pause function fixed it, i said that it "worked around" the problem. before i created the patch, i would have to hard reset nearly every time i wanted to listen to the ipod. after i installed the patch, i have only had to hard reset a couple times, and both because i had some other faulty code that i quickly fixed.
sure, the evidence is mostly circumstantial, but it is compelling to me.
thanks for being interested :)
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