Configuring the playlist order?

[EastWind]

Greetings! Got my new Sansa today, heard about rockbox, gave it a go, and it does rock, of course. Even had my first bricking incident, but nothing a bit of tampering with recovery mode wouldn't solve (When given a new device, I'll tamper with it until it breaks down. I can't help it.

Anyway, so far I'm very pleased with rockbox, and still exploring all the features. Something that bothers me though, is the sorting of the files when I play an album. This is something that bothered me with the original FW as well; assume that the filenames are numbered, i.e. I have "01 - b.mp3", "02 - a.mp3" etc., all inside their album folder. But when I play that folder, e.g. by navigating through Artist - Album Name etc., it sorts and plays the files in alphabetical order, so it will play "02 - b.mp3" first. This gets annoying quickly. I'm fairly sure there's a cfg setting that will fix this, but I haven't found it yet.. a small prod in the right direction would be much appreciated

Thanks in advance,
EastWind

[GodEater]

Greetings! Got my new Sansa today, heard about rockbox, gave it a go, and it does rock, of course. Even had my first bricking incident, but nothing a bit of tampering with recovery mode wouldn't solve (When given a new device, I'll tamper with it until it breaks down. I can't help it.

Please don't use the term "bricking" here unless you actually mean it. Any device which is ultimately recoverable without being returned to the manufacturer, or by means of a JTAG interface, is by definition NOT a brick.

Anyway, so far I'm very pleased with rockbox, and still exploring all the features. Something that bothers me though, is the sorting of the files when I play an album. This is something that bothered me with the original FW as well; assume that the filenames are numbered, i.e. I have "01 - b.mp3", "02 - a.mp3" etc., all inside their album folder. But when I play that folder, e.g. by navigating through Artist - Album Name etc., it sorts and plays the files in alphabetical order, so it will play "02 - b.mp3" first. This gets annoying quickly. I'm fairly sure there's a cfg setting that will fix this, but I haven't found it yet.. a small prod in the right direction would be much appreciated

Your example here is a little confusing.

You first refer to two files "01 - b.mp3" followed by "02 - a.mp3", and then tell us you player is starting a third file called "02 - b.mp3" - could you clear this up please ?

[bascule]

Plus, you said it played in alphabetical order (as if that was a problem), but if you files are named '01 - b.mp3' and '02 - a.mp3', then '01 - b.mp3' is alphabetically first (because of the 01) and should play first.

If '02 - a.mp3' is playing first, then that is not alphabetically...

[EastWind]

Yeah, I got confused myself, sorry. Bottom line: Files are named something like "01-b.mp3" and "02 - a.mp3", and the id3 TAGS have the correct track names (a and b) and numbers (2 and 1, respectively) in them. My Sansa will display the album playlist as "a" THEN "b", thus playing alphabetical when it comes to track NAMES, but not to track NUMBER. I'd like it to sort and play according to track NUMBERS.

Sorry about the confusion.

[GodEater]

Are the playlists assembled from the file tree or from the database ?

[bascule]

...But when I play that folder, e.g. by navigating through Artist - Album Name etc...

Should have asked this earlier - how are you browsing your files? It's unclear whether you are using the Database or File Browser...

However, if it's the Database, as I suspect, what you describe would be correct. However, the default formatting for most Database views includes the track number and should then still be OK...

Also try checking this and reporting what it is set to:
[Main Menu] > Settings > General Settings > File View > Sort files

Please describe exactly what you are doing to replicate your problem.

Fake edit: jinxed by GodEater!

[GodEater]

However, if it's the Database, as I suspect, what you describe would be correct. However, the default formatting for most Database views includes the track number and should then still be OK...

How about if the tracks are missing the track number tag ?

[bascule]

EastWind did say all the tags were present and correct...

[GodEater]

So he did.

/me goes to the back of the class.

[EastWind]

'aight, after some playing around (lots), I figured it out... when I select Artist -> [All Tracks], it generates a playlist sorted alphabetically by tracknames. If I want it to read the tracknumbers, and sort the tracks accordingly, I have to select a specific album, and I'll get a list that's sorted according to the tracknumbers.

Kind of makes sense, even though it's somehow... irritating.

Anyway, wouldn't have figured it out if you guys hadn't pushed me to just keep clicking and selecting! So thank you for your time!

[bascule]

Previous discussion here:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6282.0

and maybe here:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=10148.0