iriverH1xx - idea for the recording button (shortly pressed)

[polluxx2006]

hello,

now its possible to get to the recording screen by pressing
the rec-button for a long time, thats great.
pressing it for a short time is still unused - i got an idea for it:

i think it would be nice to have the option to go to
the config-selection with just one click - beacuse sometimes
you want to switch many settings at once for different ear-plugs, headphones,
situations and so on. and at this moment its still a "long way" to the cfg-selector, isnt it..!?

what do you think?

[dunno]

Interesting idea,

just to make sure I understand your proposal,
You suggest that a short press of the "Rec" button on the h1xx series should open a file/driectory containing custom config's ?, I like the idea.

[pabouk]

I like the idea too
First I thought about opening list of just recording config presets but opening a directory with config files and subdirectories with other special config files looks like a better idea

EDIT: It would be great if opening a recording config file could as an option automatically open the recording screen. I would like to see support for simple commands/actions in the configuration files.

[polluxx2006]

yes, my idea was to make a shortcut
to: settings -> manage settings -> browse cfg-files

so that you can turn on the player, press rec shortly and
choose a configuration. (good if you have different cfg's for
different headphones and/or line out (with eq turned off and volume to 0)
or lots of other things)

[Rincewind]

Interesting idea,

just to make sure I understand your proposal,
You suggest that a short press of the "Rec" button on the h1xx series should open a file/driectory containing custom config's ?, I like the idea.

that is exactly the behavior I use. I store my custom configs in the Themes dir and go there with a press of rec (with my rec button config patch)

no chance getting this commited at the moment, though

[dunno]

no chance getting this committed at the moment, though

and why won't it get committed ?, has any developer looked at it ?

Edit: I looked at your patches history, and you've put in a lot of work, its a shame that JdGordon didn't find your patch before including the other "long Press" patch.
would it be possible for you to remove the "long press code" in your patch ?, the rest of your patch is still a great idea.

[Rincewind]

this is not a matter of jdGordon "finding" my patch in the tracker. This is really a political issue. Some core devs are against any configurability with the button code. Others don't seem to care that much about that issue. There was talk about my patch at DevCon, but with no final conclusion.

However, I plan to keep my patch up to date until it is technically impossible to do so.

[dunno]

I can understand how "user configurable buttons are a support nightmare, and their reluctance to have such a patch committed, but your patch only configures the recording button.

Thanks for keeping your patch updated.

do you keep a build with your patch included available somewhere ?.

[Llorean]

Yes, but if one button is made configurable, you get "My target doesn't have a record button, so why do I get left out" and "If one button can be configurable, why can't they all?"

It's kinda a case of opening the floodgates.

Meanwhile, I'd personally support having a short press of the Record button open a folder *other* than Browse CFG files. A hard-coded one that you can put whatever you want in (themes, cfg files, copies of plugins, EQ presets). It'd *almost* be a configurable menu, but not quite, would actually allow more flexibility than a configurable menu (you can change multiple settings at once), and doesn't actually exist as a custom menu at all.

Basically a very slight change on the original idea in this thread that brings the functionality beyond making it a customizable button, without the 'customizable' part.

[dunno]

Paul, yes record button short press assigned a task would be great, what you have described above sounds very good.

hmm, why not link the short cut folder to a record button short press

[Rincewind]

Meanwhile, I'd personally support having a short press of the Record button open a folder *other* than Browse CFG files. A hard-coded one that you can put whatever you want in (themes, cfg files, copies of plugins, EQ presets). It'd *almost* be a configurable menu, but not quite, would actually allow more flexibility than a configurable menu (you can change multiple settings at once), and doesn't actually exist as a custom menu at all.

Basically a very slight change on the original idea in this thread that brings the functionality beyond making it a customizable button, without the 'customizable' part.

That's a nice idea. I'd trade my patch for it
It would be very easy to implement this, just a few calls to rockbox_browse() in the right place...
People without a REC button would complain and want to have it too, but we could make this a context menu option for them. Personally, I would even go so far and replace the quick menu with it. The current items in the quick menu can become default entries.
(and then we have the REC button free again and it's back to square one *joking*)

[Llorean]

I'd rather keep the quick menu how it is. It's technically broken right now, and when it works when you release the Menu button it should exit. This results in it basically being "button combinations" rather than a real menu, and very very quick to use.

But it could be added into either the Main menu "Browse User Folder" or Settings->"Browse User Folder" or something similar. I'm not sure about the context menu since it's not a context sensitive option.

[Rincewind]

I'd rather keep the quick menu how it is. It's technically broken right now, and when it works when you release the Menu button it should exit. This results in it basically being "button combinations" rather than a real menu, and very very quick to use.

I don't understand what you mean with button combinations. I always get it wrong and accidentally change repeat when I wanted to change shuffle. Then I have to cycle through the repeat options and remember only to use the right button. Doesn't feel intuitive to me. I don't like it because you have to think everytime if you don't learn it by heart.

But it could be added into either the Main menu "Browse User Folder" or Settings->"Browse User Folder" or something similar. I'm not sure about the context menu since it's not a context sensitive option.

Yes, that makes more sense. The main menu is a fixed menu and doesn't change like the context menu. The entry should stay in root, though, otherwise it isn't a shortcut anymore.

[Llorean]

When working properly, it'll be "Hold menu and press left to cycle through shuffle options, releasing menu returns to where you came from" rather than pressing menu a second time.

In theory if the status bar were always there, the menu itself wouldn't be needed (except for file view). If you've owned an H100, remember how there was a button that would change the Shuffle mode? D, A, D(Repeat) A(repeat) DA(repeat) or whatever? It should basically be thought of more like that, except that it requires two buttons to change the modes (one held, one pressed) rather than one.

Unfortunately, on the H100 menu has to be pressed a second time, because you can't combine Menu with stick motions. But for the players where it can work, this was the original way the screen worked, and it's a function that could use with fixing.

[Davide-NYC]

Doesn't feel intuitive to me. I don't like it because you have to think everytime if you don't learn it by heart.

Amen brother! I never liked that damned screen and never understood why it was there in the first place. Those settings belong in the settings menu with everything else that is a setting. The quick menu is my least liked part of Rockbox.  It always felt like an Archos leftover to me.