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Faulty playback on Ipod Nano 4Gb 1st Gen

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mikelx215:
What happens after a non-developer does their part? They sit around for weeks or maybe months waiting for the problem to be solved, not using the features or codecs supported by Rockbox.

Having the end users who can't code playing around with a slightly outdated revision of rockbox can't do much more harm than them using an unusable firmware.

Now, if a message were posted somewhere near the download page that looked something like this..

--- Quote ---Recent Rockbox builds for 1st Gen iPod Nano may have broken audio playback. If you are noticing that songs are changed frequently without user input and are getting Data Abort errors, please visit the forums.
--- End quote ---
...then at least new users would know that something was up. They'd also be able to contribute.

Llorean:
There is no such thing as a non-developer, because there is no such thing, strictly speaking, as an "official" developer. There are people who spend time working on Rockbox because they choose to, and people who don't.

A notice could be posted to help direct people, but that page is out of my control. I do think though that it'd be better for people to actually *work* on it than to simply say "Oh, newer builds may have problems, I'll not update until they go away." Which is going to take longer: Someone who has the skill, but isn't working on the bug because they have nothing to work on, or someone who has the bug but doesn't have the skill so they start learning what is necessary?

I think you're making an artificial split between "Developers" and "Non-developers." The real line is, entirely, "People who are currently working on Rockbox" and "People who aren't" in the end. Anyone can choose to join the first group, but nobody is obligated to. But the second group really has no call to have any expectations from the first group, since they've chosen not to join it. While programming may seem like a big scary thing, it's entirely a mental task, and like most mental tasks can be conquered if you spend some time on it.

mikelx215:
I understand where you're coming from, but I hold my opinion.

"But the second group really has no call to have any expectations from the first group, since they've chosen not to join it."

I don't want to come off like I'm expecting anything. For the price (free), getting the iPod to display a picture of an alternate music player is excellent value. I'm just thinking about the people who aren't going to code themselves.

Llorean:
Your opinion being "The problem doesn't need to be fixed, so long as people can use the old version?"

Why don't you volunteer to loan your device to a developer who's interested? The problem is not going to go away, but as is clear you and the people who are experiencing it seem to have no real desire to fix it, and just want to pretend like it's not there by going back to older builds.

Chronon:
The message seems to be this:

Developers can't very well work on something they can't see or test.  Either someone who experiences this problem needs to dedicate some time and effort into finding the source of this problem (be a developer) or they should offer to lend their player to a willing developer so that they will have something to test and work with.

That all sounds reasonable to me.

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