Faulty playback on Ipod Nano 4Gb 1st Gen

[tvg]

I already compiled and found the build that introduces the bug: it's 14004.


Please vote for the bug: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7510

[Llorean]

Why should people "vote for the bug"?

It's not going to magically make it more likely to get fixed.

It's not even strictly speaking a bug in Rockbox. The most likely cause is that Apple changed the way their hardware is initialized, and it's simply no longer compatible with the way we were used to using it. It's something to be fixed, but it's NOT a bug that Amiconn introduced. His changes just brought a long existing problem (that we trusted the Apple loader) to light.

It's very, very unkind to blame someone for a problem when you don't even understand what the problem is.

[tvg]

I don't know what to do, sorry.
I can change anything you like and I'll go. Yes, it's no longer compatible.

[bluebrother]

well, the key for fixing a bug is *reproducing* it. Apparently you're the only person experiencing this problem, at least in this thread. So instead of asking about votes (which are ignored anyway, and even if not, unless someone can reproduce the problem votes won't change anything) you should try to (1) narrow down the bug and (2) try to figure out how others can reproduce the issue.

[tvg]

bluebrother
I narrowed the bug to one build it appears.
And no, I'm not the only person apparently.
May be this topic can be deleted though, because here in this part of forum it's of no use.

[fritzgutten]

Hey guys, first post, I'll see if i can add anything to this discussion. I am experiencing similar  symptoms with a 2Gb 1st gen nano after updating to one of todays builds. The difference being that it is doing it with all of the songs i have and erroring out during forward skips. i experienced a couple of error codes but it was while driving, i will see if i can reprodue them and post
I'm still wrapping my brain around the builds (friquency of, and tracking the version number) and will post when i track down the information if it might prove helpful.
let me know if it will or not or if we need to move the thread so i can keep up.
thanks....rockbox rocks
fred
ok first error "Undefined instruction at 00F0F660"
2nd error "Data abort at 40001350
rockbox info:
r14124-070801

[tvg]

fritzgutten, try build 14003 or archived daily build of 26.07.2007. Should work.

[fritzgutten]

Ok, I tried the build from 26.07.2007 and now it errors out during playback.

the real question I have at the moment, is ...have i loaded it properly? am I doing something incorrectly?
the apple firmware/bootloader has not (to my knowledge) been updated for over a year.
the rockbox bootloader also has not been updated for about the same amount of time. Do i need a newer bootloader, how do I check the version of the bootloader?

otherwise I think I'll work my way back through the various builds and see if I can get something better going on.

thanks, Fred

[Febs]

the apple firmware/bootloader has not (to my knowledge) been updated for over a year.
the rockbox bootloader also has not been updated for about the same amount of time. Do i need a newer bootloader, how do I check the version of the bootloader?

Hold the >>| button as the iPod boots.  What bootloader version is displayed?

[fritzgutten]

ok, the forward button doesnt seem to effect the booting process at all, so i just booted it 4 times getting a little bit more of the bootloader version number each time.
it appears to be : 20060126-1829 which would be from january 26 2006?

[LambdaCalculus]

What!? Dude, your bootloader's WAY out of date!

Go download iPodPatcher again and update!

[fritzgutten]

  ok taken care of things are looking great so far....2-3 mins I will post an update after some time of playing with it.
thanks guys.

there isnt any recommendation in the instructions for bootloader update... except to say that the bootloader is rarely updated.

[LambdaCalculus]

Just update the bootloader if you ever see news posted on the front page about "new bootloader; please update!".

[fritzgutten]

well the original install always worked so good i never even had to come back to the site, so i havent been here for about a year before yesterday when i got the itching suspicion that i just might be missing out on something, and thats when i went wrong
thanks a bunch guys,
currantly I am running the latest bootloader and r13990-070726

[Febs]

ok, the forward button doesnt seem to effect the booting process at all, so i just booted it 4 times getting a little bit more of the bootloader version number each time.
it appears to be : 20060126-1829 which would be from january 26 2006?

Just a note:  this isn't the bootloader version, it's the Rockbox SVN revision number.  And you can get the revision number by selecting System --> Version rather than by rebooting.