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Offline zone22

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Re-enabling DRM [H300] [rock box will have to be removed unfortunately!]
« on: July 24, 2007, 10:26:21 AM »
This is good news if it works.  It means that DRM is not permanently disabled after you v flashed your player with rock box.

These following steps supposedly will reenable DRM playback on H300

I appreciate you contacting the iriver America Customer Support Team in regards to your subscription music files.  Addressing your concern, you may need to upgrade the security components of your player so you can play protected music files. You can get this upgrade at,
 
http://drmlicense.one.microsoft.com/Indivsite/en/indivit.asp
 
Format the device so that multiple root licenses are removed from the device.
 
Apply a hot fix so future syncs will not result in multiple root licenses being copied to the device.
 
http://download.microsoft.com/download/7/e/0/7e055e3f-6014-43bc-b6ff-6a90ced1d032/WindowsMedia10-KB902344-x86-INTL.exe

So I need someone to test this out on a rock box player to see if it'll reenabled DRM playback. Backup your music first!!

Normally I would do this myself but I haven't install Rockbox yet because I use DRM. I want to know if it can be re-enabled. If it can I will get a rock....rocking my box. :P
« Last Edit: July 24, 2007, 01:37:38 PM by Febs »
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Re: Re-enabling DRM [H300] [rock box will have to be removed unfortunately!]
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2007, 10:03:32 AM »
 I really could use some help here. I can't tell you how much I hate DRM and what it stands for, but I have to use it [school related]. I simply want to know if those steps above will reenable it?
« Last Edit: July 25, 2007, 02:29:00 PM by zone22 »
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Re: Re-enabling DRM [H300] [rock box will have to be removed unfortunately!]
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2007, 10:47:49 AM »
To my knowledge - no-one has ever tried it - so you're kind of on your own here.
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Re: Re-enabling DRM [H300] [rock box will have to be removed unfortunately!]
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2007, 12:14:09 PM »
Just as a note, it's incredibly unlikely these directions will work.

What's damaged is in flash, and you can't access the flash from the computer, so any process to repair it would have to involve a h300.hex file and instructing the original firmware to do a firmware upgrade.
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Re: Re-enabling DRM [H300] [rock box will have to be removed unfortunately!]
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2007, 12:16:43 PM »
I see that you just posted this same question at Mistic River, which is actually what I was going to suggest to you.  I suspect that not many of the people here at the Rockbox forums care much about whether the H300 supports DRM, and you're much more likely to find someone at Mistic River to test this.  Though I agree with Llorean that it's a long shot at best.
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Re: Re-enabling DRM [H300] [rock box will have to be removed unfortunately!]
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2007, 02:25:43 PM »
Quote from: Llorean on July 25, 2007, 12:14:09 PM
Just as a note, it's incredibly unlikely these directions will work.

What's damaged is in flash, and you can't access the flash from the computer, so any process to repair it would have to involve a h300.hex file and instructing the original firmware to do a firmware upgrade.

I'm slightly confused. You can't flash the device after you've installed rock box?
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Re: Re-enabling DRM [H300] [rock box will have to be removed unfortunately!]
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2007, 02:35:36 PM »
Quote from: Febs on July 25, 2007, 12:16:43 PM
I see that you just posted this same question at Mistic River, which is actually what I was going to suggest to you.  I suspect that not many of the people here at the Rockbox forums care much about whether the H300 supports DRM, and you're much more likely to find someone at Mistic River to test this.  Though I agree with Llorean that it's a long shot at best.

I'm not asking rock box to support DRM. I'm asking you to keep the original firmware intact.

At best I was hoping originally, that you would find a way to work around damaging the firmware. but there doesn't seem to be any motivation to put the work that entails. Who knows, someone still me kick in and put the metal to the pedal and try to accomplish it yet.

what I'm hoping for now is to find some way of removing rock box and restoring the US firmware with its DRM capabilities.
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Re: Re-enabling DRM [H300] [rock box will have to be removed unfortunately!]
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2007, 02:39:50 PM »
Quote from: zone22 on July 25, 2007, 02:25:43 PM
Quote from: Llorean on July 25, 2007, 12:14:09 PM
Just as a note, it's incredibly unlikely these directions will work.

What's damaged is in flash, and you can't access the flash from the computer, so any process to repair it would have to involve a h300.hex file and instructing the original firmware to do a firmware upgrade.

I'm slightly confused. You can't flash the device after you've installed rock box?


No.  What Llorean is saying is that the directions you posted do not contain any step that involves re-flashing firmware, and so it is difficult to see how they would work.  

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I'm not asking rock box to support DRM. I'm asking you to keep the original firmware intact.

I never suggested that you were asking Rockbox to support DRM.  I just made the observation that most H300 users who visit these forums have already flashed to Rockbox, which means that they already made the decision to abandon DRM support (if they had a US H300).  My point was only that you're more likely to find people at Mistic River that care about DRM support on the H300.
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Re: Re-enabling DRM [H300] [rock box will have to be removed unfortunately!]
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2007, 02:40:58 PM »
Quote from: zone22 on July 25, 2007, 02:35:36 PM
I'm not asking rock box to support DRM. I'm asking you to keep the original firmware intact.

At best I was hoping originally, that you would find a way to work around damaging the firmware. but there doesn't seem to be any motivation to put the work that entails. Who knows, someone still me kick in and put the metal to the pedal and try to accomplish it yet.

what I'm hoping for now is to find some way of removing rock box and restoring the US firmware with its DRM capabilities.

And what we're trying to tell you is that since any implementation of DRM relies on secrecy, and hiding information from the end user, that's there no way for us to know how to reliably restore the DRM functionality of a player after you've placed Rockbox on it. The DRM key is hidden in the flash area somewhere, and that somewhere is damaged when you flash the player with the Rockbox bootloader.

You're now asking us to verify instructions given to you by iRiver America - and we've very little interest in doing it - especially since it makes no sense. Flashing a player is a fairly intensive thing to do to it, and shouldn't be done on a daily basis. I can see no reason why you think you'd want to install Rockbox in the first place if DRM is important to you. If it is - just leave your player alone.
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Re: Re-enabling DRM [H300] [rock box will have to be removed unfortunately!]
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2007, 04:17:25 PM »
sorry, I should've made myself a bit more clear. I was simply hoping someone would test the idea or give their thoughts on if they thought it would work.

You've given your thoughts on the idea. I can't ask for more than that.

How I approached Iriver was to say I flashed my US version to international and when I flashed back I couldn't play DRM anymore. That's how they responded.[look at first post] I was hoping that somehow that could be applied to restoring the original firmwareafter uninstalling rock box.

I know it's a shot in the dark but it was still worth a try.
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Re: Re-enabling DRM [H300] [rock box will have to be removed unfortunately!]
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2007, 08:12:00 PM »
Recently I directly approached The iriver Support Team about Rock Box.
They said that those steps should work.
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Re: Re-enabling DRM [H300] [rock box will have to be removed unfortunately!]
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2007, 03:37:49 PM »
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No.  What Llorean is saying is that the directions you posted do not contain any step that involves re-flashing firmware, and so it is difficult to see how they would work.


Actually it does involve re-flashing firmware.  The link below takes you to Microsoft's security component upgrade Center.


http://drmlicense.one.mic.../Indivsite/en/indivit.asp
 

When I went there the upgrade button was grayed out.
so I asked them how to fix that and this is how they responded...

"Please run the firmware updater first and when it asks to connect the device, connect it. If that doesn't work, please try connecting the device first and then running the firmware updater. Also, try restarting your computer. Try to connect and disconnect again and play around with it."

This seems to imply that it involves flashing the unit

so any thoughts?
« Last Edit: July 26, 2007, 04:37:18 PM by zone22 »
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Re: Re-enabling DRM [H300] [rock box will have to be removed unfortunately!]
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2007, 03:42:38 PM »
The H300's firmware is updated by copying a file to the device, then choosing to update from within the device itself, not by way of a firmware update utility.
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Re: Re-enabling DRM [H300] [rock box will have to be removed unfortunately!]
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2007, 08:33:37 PM »
Apparently that's what they're talking about the internal firmware update option. They're not being very clear so I've asked for step-by-step instructions starting with going to http://drmlicense.one.mic.../Indivsite/en/indivit.asp
 
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Re: Re-enabling DRM [H300] [rock box will have to be removed unfortunately!]
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2007, 09:52:25 AM »
Can you please check your links when you cut and paste them?  The links you posted in this thread were broken (I fixed them), the link you posted above is broken, and the links you posted at Mistic River were broken.
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