Why I'm keeping the rockbox from my box [H320].

[zone22]

okay  lets see here
the program I'm going to be using this overdrive media.
I get the file's bring them home act like I'm downloading them and I automatically get the license by doing that. It works.

but here's the problem. basically, once I've installed it it'll look like a memory stick to any computer I'm not sure how that will transfer using drive media.

##update##
if anyone already as a rockbox modified H320 OR 40

Go to http://www.overdrive.com/software/omc/
and download the software and see if you can transfer a protected file to it.

[GodEater]

Could you try to keep double posting to a minimum please?

If no-one's replied since your last post, you should just edit the one you made before. Thanks

[PaulJam]

Why don't you try it yourself using the DATA port instead of the MEDIA port?

[xtremedrummer498]

There is a free program out there that allows you to remove the DRM from the file, but only if you actually have the license to play it. I have Bearshare and I love being able to use the music I actually paid for.

[zone22]

I'm renting the music and e-books. I have no qualms about stripping the DRM. I also have a free program that does the job.  I simply delete the files after I'm done with them. The problem still stands, I can't transfer unless I'm using the media port. I guess I'll have to get some people interested in flashing rock box without destroying it's DRM capability. The problem is most of the people aren't from the US and DRM isn't used anywhere else for the most part.


"Unsupported features

Rockbox development is always ongoing. However, either due to the lack of support from external companies or platform drawbacks, Rockbox has a few features which are not yet implemented.

    * Firewire
    * Digital rights management (intentionally)
    * USB host capability ("USB On-The-Go") (this is part of a Google summer of code 2007 project)"
 source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockbox

What will it take to get the rockbox community to create and implement those features?

[Llorean]

As was said, Rockbox won't implement DRM.

As for getting the DRM not to be destroyed when installing Rockbox, you'd have to figure out how to install Rockbox on a US Firmware H300, and figure out how not to damage the DRM in the process. Considering once the DRM is damaged, it can't be undamaged, you might need a decent number of US H300s that haven't had Rockbox installed or been converted to international firmware to test on.

[zone22]

Instead of flashing over is it possible to emulate firmware from the hard drive.
In no way am I claiming to know what I'm talking about, but you never know what might spark a new idea.

[Llorean]

Something *has* to be flashed, because we have to change what it loads on startup.

[zone22]

and I guess you've already thought of this to.  Simply adding on not overwriting any of the code.

 I hope someday someone decides to firm up to the challenge.  Till then I'll wait or learn and do it myself.

[Llorean]

Ah, but if it starts running at the beginning of the code, we have to put our code at the beginning. Which means moving other code. If you don't want to break the original firmware, that means reorganizing things, but you have to do it in a way that doesn't break the DRM, and that's the problem.

Someone basically needs to figure out how to reorganize things where it won't break the DRM (if that's possible, for example there may not be enough room.)

[zone22]

when you flash it, is it possible to delete code or only add it?


Thanks for your time and extraordinary patience.

[Llorean]

I don't know what you mean by "delete code or only add it"

There's a certain size block of flash memory. When you choose the firmware upgrade option in the original firmware, a portion of this is overwritten by whatever's in the H300.HEX file. When installing Rockbox, we modify that file to have the Rockbox bootloader in, so it gets run first.

[zone22]

 that's because I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm taking information from this site and others and spitting out a theoretical solutions based on what I know.

I know people have sent  their units back after flashing them with rockbox and sent them back repaired.

so the firmware that we download isn't the full version it's just a patch?

[Llorean]

Which firmware that you download?

The official iRiver H300.HEX is a full version, but it does not contain the DRM key. This is already on your device, in the flash (it seems) and does not get overwritten on firmware updates.

Rockbox includes two parts, a bootloader (which is a patch to the H300.HEX file for iRiver H300 series) that gives you the choice which firmware to load, and the actual firmware (rockbox.iriver and various other files) which are actually loaded off the disk under normal circumstances so you only have to flash once.

[zone22]

I currently have v1.04 US which I think is the latest patch.

does the DRM key and change when you upload and protected files to it and play them.  I have a program that strips the DRM [if you have a license] it searches and uploads "DRM keys" approximately 11 of them.
would the flash ROM containing one of these one or all of these keys?

There is no way to actually look at the code or flash memory that's in the player?