iPod G3 installation issue

[turboluv]

so last night i installed rockbox on my G3 ipod. i fif the firmware stuff and turned it on, and the rockbox screen came up, and it lit up the 4 buttons, wheee! and then nothing happened, the screen continued to proudly display the rockbox logo, and my buttons continued to gleefully shine red.

no amount or combinations of button pressing and holding could undo it. so i set it aside and decided to wait till the betteries died, as the charge was not a full one. i then decided to have a drink. and another. and another. and i think maybe about two more, when yay! i dischovered taht my i pdo was i nfact dead. (drunkenness simulated)

so i charged it for a few minutes, and plugged it into the computer no doubt thinking 'i would show that stupid gen3/rockbox," went straight to the drive and threw that awful .rockbox folder away! i then unplugged it and turned it on again, to get a screen that says something about ''rockbox firmware blah blah bad news" and now my computer refuses to acknowledge it at all aside from informing me that there is something plugged in, but it has no clue what and it doesn't like it one bit.

itunes can't see it, nothing works at all. when it's plugged into the computer, it shows me the apple logo for about 2-3 seconds, and shuts down.

is it time to buy a new ipod?

[Febs]

I've changed the title of your thread.  Do not use profanity in our forums.  This is your first and only warning.

[soap]

i then unplugged it and turned it on again, to get a screen that says something about ''rockbox firmware blah blah bad news" and now my computer refuses to acknowledge it at all aside from informing me that there is something plugged in, but it has no clue what and it doesn't like it one bit.

Deleting the .rockbox folder as you hinted you did does not remove the bootloader.
Uninstallation instructions for that step are in the manual.

[turboluv]

sorry about the profanity deal, i'm used to forums where it's all good or where it auto-censors you.

Deleting the .rockbox folder as you hinted you did does not remove the bootloader.
Uninstallation instructions for that step are in the manual.

right, well that's all well and good but the point is that if my computor can't recognize it then i cant very well use any software on it, can i? ;-) it doesn't even show up as a mass storage device like it originally did...

so anyway, if i get it working again, is this a known issue? did i just get lucky?

[GodEater]

To get your PC to see it as a mass storage device again you need to start it in disk mode. Instructions for this can be found in the top thread of this forum.

[Llorean]

You'll notice the iPod 3G isn't listed as supported on the front page of the site. It's expected to be unreliable at this time.

[turboluv]

You'll notice the iPod 3G isn't listed as supported on the front page of the site. It's expected to be unreliable at this time.

right. i didn't quite expect it to be that unreliable tho haha...

anyway i got it fixed, thanks guys.

[Llorean]

In all honesty, you shouldn't have expect it to run at all. :-P

[saintAlphonzo]

I do see it listed on the Home Page now, does that mean we can expect the daily builds to work?  Or, is there a stable version that we can reasonably expect to function?

I'm asking in this thread because I had the same issue as the poster.

[LambdaCalculus]

According to recent news, the iPod 3G port is offically supported as of 3 August, so go ahead and download to heart's content.

Report your results back to the boys so we can all continue to fix it up.

[saintAlphonzo]

I will, thanks for the quick update

So, since there still aren't releases per se, the current daily builds are stable enough to use?

This is great, I was so disappointed last month when I wasn't able to use Rockbox.

Thanks again!!

[LambdaCalculus]

From personal experience, I've been running Rockbox since I got my iPod video last Xmas, and I have had next to no problems with stability. In fact, Rockbox seems more stable nowadays than it did way back in December of last year.

You can use either the daily builds or a current build, which is changed with every SVN commit. But a lot of the devs recommend using current builds, since we can catch bugs and fix them a little more quickly that way.

[Llorean]

1) We recommend "Current builds" not "Daily Builds"
2) Current builds should be considered development version.

Stable versions will be in one manner or another marked as stable (for example, a version-numbered release). When a player is added to the "Supported" list, this merely means that we think Rockbox "runs" on it now. It may still be buggy, but it's ready for the general population to attempt to use, may be fine, or may be buggy in which case properly filed bug reports are welcome.

[LambdaCalculus]

It goes to prove that one should be just a wee bit more careful about the words he chooses to describe something. I should have written:

the iPod 3G port is offically supported as of 3 August

As...

The iPod 3G port is at a usable state as of 3 August

Thanks for pointing out the error I made, Llorean.

[Llorean]

Well it is officially supported. Whereas the previous response was "The port has serious stability issues and is still in early development" when people had problems, it's now "That shouldn't be happening, and needs to be looked into."

All the basic functionality should be done/usable. It's just a case of "usable" not meaning the same thing as "released" or "stable".