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Rockbox "Experts" are jerks

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junkers:
I totally agree. We all know that the average user is pretty casual about things and that can be very annoying. But no amount of annoyance can justify the outright rudeness that the moderators here are dishing out liberally. Bottom line is that we all want Rockbox to progress and succeed, and such rudeness is going to drive away many users who are put off by this nature of surliness. I think it is a PR issue and I strongly believe it matters.

So come on guys, we appreciate the work you do. And you may enjoy it more with a little bit more of congeniality around here.  :)  

elborak:
I have seen virtually no rudeness from any of the moderators here in months of regular reading of these forums. Is saying "read the manual" or "search the wiki" rude? Is saying "read the posting guidelines before posting" rude?

I just don't see it.

Llorean:
I'll tell you what, you get every new member to show enough respect to read the rules and follow them as they're written, and I'll be polite as a kitten. Do we have a deal?

Respect gets respect.

I don't think I'm overly rude, but I do tend to be short with people who've clearly either ignored or not bothered to read the rules. With the number of posts I've read through, it's impossible not to be. I read every post on this forum, every day, and that totals to quite a few, a high percentage of which haven't bothered to show the basic courtesy of doing what they agreed to do and follow the rules.

junkers:
"I don't think I'm overly rude, but I do tend to be short with people who've clearly either ignored or not bothered to read the rules. With the number of posts I've read through, it's impossible not to be."

I won't cite specific examples of "rudeness" but may be it is the "tend to be short with people" that comes through on occasion. :)

"I read every post on this forum, every day, and that totals to quite a few"

Dude, that's the part we appreciate most of all. :)  Please keep it up!

bascule:

--- Quote from: junkers on July 17, 2007, 02:54:05 AM ---...we all want Rockbox to progress and succeed, and such rudeness is going to drive away many users who are put off by this nature of surliness...
--- End quote ---

As I see it, the above is the point around which this whole discussion revolves.

We are not gearing up for an IPO here! This project is not for profit, it's probably not even for recognition and respect, it was started by a couple of guys who were fed up with the poor quality of the OF on their Archos machines. There is no drive for any defined progression nor any definition of 'success'.

The developers are doing it for themselves and no-one else. If you like it and want to contribute, fine; if not, it's absolutely no skin off their nose. (British colloquialism).

The combination of these factors creates the behavioural environment that is displayed on these forums:

We like to help those who wish to help themselves.
We do not wish to spoon-feed every excitable, demanding newbie who has tried to install Rockbox (a replacement firmware, FFS, not just a simple application) ten minutes after stumbling across the site from somewhere else.

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