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danhibiki
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Re: Latest Rockbox not working on Nano
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Reply #15 on:
July 26, 2007, 01:54:21 PM »
Now I've updated to r14006 because I saw more changes on PP targets and Rockbox can't find its .rockbox directory again
Dwyloc, I always use Apple OS when transferring files because for some reason it is much faster than disk mode.
Rockbox was always stable for me (except in the beggining, but that was expected), it was some changes on 2007-07-03 (probably CPU related) that started these problems. If I use a build from 2007-07-02, which I'm using because of all of the issues, it works just fine.
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Llorean
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Re: Latest Rockbox not working on Nano
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Reply #16 on:
July 26, 2007, 02:02:25 PM »
Why don't you work out exactly which change it is. And better yet, why it's not affecting any other Nano users.
I'll repeat that it still very much sounds like a bad 'disk' (flash) more than anything to do with Rockbox. You're the only person experiencing these problems, and they almost entirely relate to the disk.
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danhibiki
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Re: Latest Rockbox not working on Nano
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Reply #17 on:
July 26, 2007, 02:59:06 PM »
It's r13763 you can see here:
http://www.rockbox.org/daily/changelogs/changes-20070703.html
If it were some bad flash memory, then r13762 (that I builded on my own to test) would not be working correctly, it would be corrupting tons of files/folders. But that's not the case, r13762 works perfectly fine, plays back every song I try, don't have graphical glitches, always boots and so on.
Why it doesn't affect others nano users is beyond what I can do, since I don't have any other nano around me (I don't even know other people with nano's that I could test). All I can do is report the behaviour I'm getting and trying to make it as useful and detailed as I can.
If what I'm reporting isn't helpful on trying to isolate the problem, please tell me how to, because I'm willing to do this.
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Llorean
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Re: Latest Rockbox not working on Nano
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Reply #18 on:
July 26, 2007, 03:41:34 PM »
What is the most recent SVN revision you've tried, not compiled yourself but downloaded from our build server?
What bootloader version are you running?
As I said, Rockbox ran fine on my Nano using revisions you said didn't work, and as well you've showed signs that there is some strangeness to your partition. Have you tried reformatting and restoring your iPod and then re-installing Rockbox? Have you tried running a few disk checking utilities?
Just because one revision seems to be working doesn't make it set in stone that your disk isn't bad. Whatever it is, it's very likely something specific to just your iPod, otherwise other people would be having this problem, as I've said.
Have you gone back and tried older revisions to ensure they're all still working?
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Farpenoodle
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Re: Latest Rockbox not working on Nano
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Reply #19 on:
July 26, 2007, 04:41:26 PM »
Hmmm. Interesting.
I think it's possible I might be experiencing something related. Though not nearly as severe. I only stumbled across this because I updated to the latest build without noticing the portalplayer updates. Basically, I thought my nano had finally died.
Anyway to get to the matter, for the past two weeks (I think) I've noticed that rockbox on my Nano was popping on my MP3 files and completely skipping alot of my MPC files. I first thought that I had managed to corrupt my filesystem. Which really surprised me considering how anal I usually am about that kind of thing. So I restored my iPod and reinstalled Rockbox. Then the problem came back and I thought my flash was dying. Thing is, this seems to occur fairly randomly. Sometimes I can read my files just fine.
Also, fsck and chkdsk would seem to indicate that all is fine.
Was running r14009 but have reverted to r14001 until this bootloader stuff has been sorted out. Maybe I'll try going to r13762 to see if that fixes the problem for me.
If it's at all helpful it's a Black 4GB Nano.
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Llorean
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Re: Latest Rockbox not working on Nano
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Reply #20 on:
July 26, 2007, 04:43:14 PM »
There weren't any released bootloader changes between 14001 and 14009. What are you talking about? If you're referring to the broken building of the bootloaders, that in no way affects your build. Unless you're installing SVN bootloaders (which you shouldn't be anyway) it won't affect you.
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Farpenoodle
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Re: Latest Rockbox not working on Nano
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Reply #21 on:
July 26, 2007, 04:52:27 PM »
Nope. Using the official bootloader. Updating past r14004 causes all kinds of weirdness which I assumed was because a bootloader update was needed.
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Llorean
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Re: Latest Rockbox not working on Nano
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Reply #22 on:
July 26, 2007, 04:54:19 PM »
If a bootloader update was required, we'd post a new copy of iPodPatcher with it built in. Which version of the bootloader do you have installed?
As a note, I've just installed and am having no problems using a Current Build of Rockbox on my Nano.
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Farpenoodle
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Re: Latest Rockbox not working on Nano
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Reply #23 on:
July 26, 2007, 05:03:50 PM »
At this point the latest one on the manual page since I noticed the dates on ipodpatcher have changed. Anything past r14004 still doesn't work.
Edit: K I'm dumb there's no difference between what I was using before and now I just saw the date change on the manual page so I assumed that there was a newer ipodpatcher. But yeah. Still the latest version of what's on the manual page.
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Llorean
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Re: Latest Rockbox not working on Nano
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July 26, 2007, 05:07:32 PM »
"Doesn't work" is not descriptive.
How are you testing? Are you downloading from build.rockbox.org or compiling your own (since you suggest you've tried 14005-14010)? What exactly happens?
As I said, I'm having absolutely no problems.
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Farpenoodle
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Re: Latest Rockbox not working on Nano
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Reply #25 on:
July 26, 2007, 05:13:51 PM »
I getting data aborts and just alot of weirdness. Such as infinite database rebuilding and other good fun. While I do use custom builds I have already tried an official one and the same problems occur.
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Llorean
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Re: Latest Rockbox not working on Nano
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Reply #26 on:
July 26, 2007, 05:16:24 PM »
You didn't answer all of my questions. Please answer all of them, clearly. Specifically, are you downloading or compiling to test? Which specific revisions did you test an official build with?
As I said, using the official current build and bootloader, I'm having no problems, so I need to know exactly what you're doing, and you're being very vague in your answers.
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Farpenoodle
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Re: Latest Rockbox not working on Nano
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Reply #27 on:
July 26, 2007, 05:40:01 PM »
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by vague because I don't feel like I'm being vague, but basically:
I'm on the official bootloader.
I've compiled versions (minus any patches I might usually use) before and after 14004 and anything on or after 14004 is broken.
I've also tried r14008 from build.rockbox.org and that's broken too.
By broken I mean most things just seem broken. When I try to play files I get data aborts. When I try to access the database it tries to rebuild and just stops there. After resetting it'll try to commit what it managed to scan and seems to stop there too.
I actually mentioned that I have a Black 4GB because I was thinking that there might be a slight hardware incompatibility somewhere with Black 4GBs even if thats unlikely.
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Llorean
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Re: Latest Rockbox not working on Nano
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July 26, 2007, 05:43:34 PM »
I have a black 4gb.
I said you were being vague because when I asked specifically which versions you tested, you claimed to have tested on "an" official version (which means one) and then didn't say which, and went on to mention having used unofficial versions.
As well, you keep saying "broken" but don't mention for example, whether you've tried clearing your settings, where the data aborts are (address) with an official build, etc.
Please try using the latest ipodpatcher to install the current bootloader, then deleting your .rockbox folder, then extracting a downloaded current build. Then simply try to play back an MP3 file. If it data aborts, give me the svn revision, and the address the abort happens at (in case the revision changes when you download again, be sure to check the revision number in the menu).
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Farpenoodle
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Re: Latest Rockbox not working on Nano
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Reply #29 on:
July 26, 2007, 06:00:34 PM »
Ah.
Well the errors seem to be random and the addresses didn't seem to be consistent. Right now the ipod just seems to become unresponsive when I play a file. But I've recorded two of the errors I've gotten if you think you can do something with them.
Undefined instruction at 01F07D60
Undefined instruction at 00F00038
(These were on r14004 which is the revision on which it breaks.)
I've reverted to my r14001 build since I want to be able to use my player tomorrow. Though that still doesn't solve my original problem.
Will try a clean install over the weekend.
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