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Offline lsiden

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IpodStatus page still up-to-date for 5.5Gen iPod?
« on: July 10, 2007, 05:15:10 PM »
The RB site clearly states that Rockbox works on the 80GB iPod Video.  However, what about the issues listed here:

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodStatus#Known_issues_4G_models_and_highe

Are any of these still problematic on the 5.5Gen iPod?

PS - I wanted to post this to the thread "Are We There Yet..." but couldn't find the reply button.
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Re: IpodStatus page still up-to-date for 5.5Gen iPod?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2007, 11:19:15 PM »
yes, the issues are still there. main problem is that apple is not releasing much info about programming the specific hardware inside the ipods. RB is unable to fully use the COP, broadcom chip and advanced power management
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Re: IpodStatus page still up-to-date for 5.5Gen iPod?
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2007, 07:51:36 AM »
Quote from: mamboman on July 10, 2007, 11:19:15 PM
apple is not releasing much info

Replace much with any.
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Offline mamboman

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Re: IpodStatus page still up-to-date for 5.5Gen iPod?
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2007, 11:13:05 AM »
it's already very impressive what rockbox has accomplished so far to work on most models
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Offline GodEater

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Re: IpodStatus page still up-to-date for 5.5Gen iPod?
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2007, 11:16:35 AM »
Credit where credit is due - a lot of the low level info was found out by the ipod linux guys - which we've shamelessly stolen, improved, and given back ;)
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Re: IpodStatus page still up-to-date for 5.5Gen iPod?
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2007, 11:29:18 AM »
Double thanks to both the iPodLinux team and these crazy hackers on the Rockbox team for turning Mr. Jobs' schlocky little DAP into something that actually is WORTH using.  ;)

And Mr. Jobs should at least appreciate the sales he's getting; I would not have given the iPod a second look had it not been for Rockbox.
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Offline lsiden

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Re: IpodStatus page still up-to-date for 5.5Gen iPod?
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2007, 12:31:30 PM »
I can see that good people made considerable progreess under adverse circumstances and I too would like to give thanks and credit.  I am asking these questions not to nit-pick but because I want to buy a high storage-capacity MP3/OGG player, and the iPod Video with Rockbox (I refuse to run i-Tunes) looks like an ideal candidate.  

Nevertheless, the iPod Video is still pricey (> $300) and I want to be absolutely sure that it Rockbox will work smoothly on it before I invest that kind of money.  I only care about storage, look-up, and audio-playback of high quality (160 - 192 Kbps) MP3 and OGG files - I do not intend to use any other features or plug-ins.  

So I can live with "Remote Control doesn't work" and "No click sound played when click wheel is used" and even "UI sometimes becomes sluggish", but I don't know about skipping while playing certain files and I'm especially concerned by "occasional freezes".  I already tried RB out on an iPod Photo and found this to be a recuring and annoying problem.  

I'd also like to know what exactly is meant by "Battery life is significantly less than [that achieved by] the Apple firmware".  The Twiki page IpodRuntime lists the iPod Video as running 10 hrs under Rockbox.  This seems sufficient to meet my needs.  Is there something else I might need to know about?

I would appreciate any help I can get from anyone to answer these questions.  Thanks, and G-d bless.
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Re: IpodStatus page still up-to-date for 5.5Gen iPod?
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2007, 07:17:50 PM »
I've been using Rockbox on a 60gb 5g for more than a year now with practically no problems. At this point, skipping is never an issue, the way I use it. (Same goes for a 30gb 5.5g I borrowed for a few months.)

Battery life IS kinda a problem for me though; however, if you're cool with ~10hrs then I suppose you'll be fine.

(I also bought it solely because of Rockbox.)
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Offline mamboman

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Re: IpodStatus page still up-to-date for 5.5Gen iPod?
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2007, 10:00:17 PM »
The battery life with rockbox is about half of what i get with apple's firmware, but i am sure in time, the wizards here will get the problem licked :)
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Offline lsiden

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Re: IpodStatus page still up-to-date for 5.5Gen iPod?
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2007, 10:46:22 PM »
That's really helpful, and give me confidence to invest in a iPod 5G or 5.5G.  Thanks!  

BTW - What is the difference between a 5G and 5.5G?  The Wiki has a reference to a page on Apple's site that is supposed to make this clear, but it didn't for me.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: IpodStatus page still up-to-date for 5.5Gen iPod?
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2007, 01:36:31 AM »
It basically just depends on whether your iPod is newer than a certain date or not.
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Offline lsiden

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Re: IpodStatus page still up-to-date for 5.5Gen iPod?
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2007, 04:28:06 PM »
Does it make any diff as far as Rockbox is concerned?
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Offline lsiden

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Re: IpodStatus page still up-to-date for 5.5Gen iPod?
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2007, 04:31:15 PM »
From the Twiki page IpodStatus, it looks like 5g is "very stable" but 5.5g has some qualifications.  Do they still apply?
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Re: IpodStatus page still up-to-date for 5.5Gen iPod?
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2007, 04:57:12 PM »
I think as far as Rockbox is concerned, the 5 and 5.5G are identical, except for the 80GB which has performance issues relating to the particular hard drive used in it.
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Offline lsiden

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Re: IpodStatus page still up-to-date for 5.5Gen iPod?
« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2007, 08:19:32 PM »
Non-optimal disk-writing code shouldn't effect normal playback operation, since that only occurs when saving a playlist or config file.

What about occasional freezes on the 5/5.5g.  Has anyone encountered these?  This happened all the time on my iPod Photo.
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