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Llorean:
Actually, lithium-ion batteries are best stored at partial charge in a cool or cold environment. Keeping them at full charge is not the ideal situation.

betamaxman:
I am not talking about what's best for storing it in a time capsule, but everyday use, where it will get partially discharged from time to time.
Ideal or not, point is it is far better than fully discharging and recharging.
Listen to Steve Gibson's ipod battery advice, watch the video. 8-)
http://www.labwithleo.com/shownotes/episode10/notes

ryran:
Wow. I didn't know that; I read at some point that it was best to store Li-ion at full capacitiy.. Paul does it again.

In reference to Rockbox on targets with Li-ion batteries, something else from wikipedia entry caught my attention:

--- Quote ---A stand-alone Li-ion cell must never be discharged below a certain voltage to avoid irreversible damage. Therefore all Li-ion battery systems are equipped with a circuit that shuts down the system when the battery is discharged below the predefined threshold.[8] It should thus be impossible to "deep discharge" the battery in a properly designed system during normal use. This is also one of the reasons Li-ion cells are rarely sold as such to consumers, but only as finished batteries designed to fit a particular system.

When the voltage monitoring circuit is built inside the battery (a so-called "smart" battery) rather than the equipment, it continuously draws a small current from the battery even when the battery is not in use; furthermore, the battery must not be stored fully discharged for prolonged periods of time, to avoid damage due to deep discharge.
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This makes me very curious about, e.g. the iPod. I wonder if it has a smart battery, if the hardware takes care of shutting it down before it reaches that critical point, or if the firmware plays a role ... more to the point: if it's easily possible to damage a Li-ion battery by using Rockbox.

Meh. I suppose we'd know if it was. Hmm.
Interesting stuff.

Llorean:
As far as we know, all Rockbox targets with Lithium batteries have their own control circuitry keeping them from deep discharging, and overcharging.

Cian:

--- Quote from: ryran on July 06, 2007, 11:58:10 PM ---
--- Quote from: Cian on July 06, 2007, 09:28:31 PM ---Does this mean I need to use itunes, and have every song duplicated on my player?

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Yes it does mean you'll need to use iTunes.. but you don't need to duplicate all the songs. You can just use iTunes to transfer your music (which will put it into random folders of random file names in the control folder) and then use Rockbox's database feature to search for all of the files on your iPod and display them via tags [just like the Apple firmware].

--- End quote ---

So I really should be transferring ALL my songs via itunes...rather than any file tree set up I may have? And then rockbox will recognise the tags in the same way the original firmware does? At the moment I actually have my collection (around 30gb's at the moment, need to pay my brother a visit ;D), on the player using my old file tree set up that I used with my iriver H340. Looks like I'll have to transfer everything back to the computer so? And back on to the player through itunes.

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