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Offline killo777

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iPod 5,5 (80Gb) doesn´t switch on anymore
« on: July 06, 2007, 10:27:08 AM »
Hi,

with the version r13733-070629, i installed, play music.....than I switched off and next day i could´nt switch on anymore.

I read the threads from here, i can tell you that for sure i was reading differents forums in internet to look for a solution, I use the  Menu+select (more than 1 minute) and the hold button on- off and then 1 minu Mune+select, doesn´t work.

With an older version i didn´t have this problem, it is only with this version.
I can hear the hard disk doing some move, it is like it is in a loop.

any idea? any kind of help please?

I am waiting till the battery is empty, so i think that will be the only one way to recover my ipod

Could be very nice to hear aynthing from you, thanks :'(

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Offline GodEater

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Re: iPod 5,5 (80Gb) doesn´t switch on anymore
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2007, 01:20:34 PM »
If it doesn't switch on - the battery is already dead. Give it a good long charge (2 hours or so) - ideally using a wall charger.
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Offline killo777

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Re: iPod 5,5 (80Gb) doesn´t switch on anymore
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2007, 02:34:27 PM »
thanks for the hint, but....

it can not be because I charged it before i disconected  from the computer and switch off

and like I said before, i can hear the hard disk running, like doing loops... sounds like.....
pi ..pi ....pi.-...pi...pi    ;)  i was just trying    :o
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Offline bluebrother

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Re: iPod 5,5 (80Gb) doesn´t switch on anymore
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2007, 03:24:39 PM »
well, the Menu + Select reset is a hardware thing on the Ipod. It _does_ work and it _needs to_ work. If not, the battery is flat or you have a different hardware problem. Switching on is definitely not related to Rockbox.
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Offline GodEater

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Re: iPod 5,5 (80Gb) doesn´t switch on anymore
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2007, 05:27:42 PM »
Quote from: killo777 on July 06, 2007, 02:34:27 PM
thanks for the hint, but....

it can not be because I charged it before i disconected  from the computer and switch off

and like I said before, i can hear the hard disk running, like doing loops... sounds like.....
pi ..pi ....pi.-...pi...pi    ;)  i was just trying    :o

Means nothing that you think you charged it from your computer - you might have managed to find a low mA USB port and it didn't really impart a charge at all.

The symptoms you describe sound EXACTLY like there's no charge left in it.
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Offline killo777

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Re: iPod 5,5 (80Gb) doesn´t switch on anymore
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2007, 10:49:31 AM »
I said before that i can hear a click sound from the ipod connector, i think that it is the hard disk.
so that is the reason that I am saying that I am 100% sure that the battery is not empty, because in case of an empty battery i will not hear a click inside the ipod.

So please, can anybody really help me, no one has a problem with the ipod80 gb.

I forgot to say that i had the same problem with  my first ipod80gd, I was able to get a new replacement from apple warranty and I used again the rockbox in my new ipod full charged, that is the reason i think is a rockbox bug

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Offline GodEater

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Re: iPod 5,5 (80Gb) doesn´t switch on anymore
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2007, 11:52:37 AM »
Would you please just stop arguing with us and CHARGE your ipod?

It's very unlikely you've run the battery down low enough to get no activity at all - so what you're hearing is very likely the iPod trying to power up, and then shutting down again when it doesn't get enough voltage.

It's most definitely NOT a Rockbox bug as if it won't power on - no code of ours can possibly be running.
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Offline killo777

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Re: iPod 5,5 (80Gb) doesn´t switch on anymore
« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2007, 05:07:00 AM »
don´t worry,
 i am trying to be positive and solve a problem, for sure your are  the expert and i am only the end user ??? ;D

I am charging my ipod with the usb in a laptop ibm lenovo R60, usb 2.0, two hours and nothing is happening.

let´s try put everything together:
1.- I am using rockbox in my ipod 5g 80gb since juni without any problem
2.- with the version r13733-070629 start having this switch on problem, I can sure that the ipod is 100% charged but not reaction to MENU+SELECT
3.- last week I changed my ipod for a new one from the apple store (warranty) and I tried again the same rockbox version in the new ipod, next day i had the same problem, the day before was the ipod conected to the pc , so battery was 100% charged.


anybody with the same problem? how can i discharge my ipod faster? I still hear clicks inside the ipod, it is like the hard disk looping, perhaps i can stop it once the battery is empty

and really guys....i was the whole weekend charging the ipod, this morning again and nothing happens...and please, don´t ask me to charge it with a wall charger

I have to say that i can not live with my ipod without the rockbox...

thanks
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Offline Llorean

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Re: iPod 5,5 (80Gb) doesn´t switch on anymore
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2007, 05:11:09 AM »
So, since Rockbox doesn't handle the bootup, are you *sure* your computer didn't stop giving enough charge?

That's a clear possible solution, your USB port stopped providing as much power, due to some failure, and so now you can't charge the iPod as well as you should be able to.

As you've been told, Rockbox doesn't control bootup, and Rockbox can't prevent Menu+Select, so despite the correlation of "I installed this version of Rockbox" and "Problems started happening", there's a distinct unlikeliness that Rockbox is the problem. As I've pointed out, there are other correlations to bear in mind.

And a click click click is almost exactly the sound one would hear from an iPod without enough power to spin up a disk, but trying anyway, as was said earlier.
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Offline killo777

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Re: iPod 5,5 (80Gb) doesn´t switch on anymore
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2007, 05:33:58 AM »
ok,

thanks,
the thing is that i was trying to charge from differents computers, at home and at the office (this morning) and before i never had this problem.....

so it means, i need a wall charger? no so easy to get.....uhm....or any idea or program where i can check if my usb port is giving out mA?
in any case, i check my usb cable with another ipod and i can say that it is ok, so my usb cable is not broken.

I will try to see what can i do

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Offline Llorean

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Re: iPod 5,5 (80Gb) doesn´t switch on anymore
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2007, 05:38:56 AM »
Have you tried charging your iPod with a different cable, instead of trying your cable on a different iPod (if it's giving low power, the other iPod will probably say it's charging, just because it detects *any* power)?
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Offline killo777

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Re: iPod 5,5 (80Gb) doesn´t switch on anymore
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2007, 04:00:00 AM »
i got a wall dc adapter and still not working.....

i bought yesterday a new dc adapter and was more than 4 hours connected....no reaction from my ipod....

today i got a new wall charger from a friend....one hour and the same, no reaction from my ipod....

so, ladys and gentlemen.......what am i doing wrong?....i can still hear the click click from the hard disk....how can i recover my ipod again......

It is a shame because this one is a new one that i got because i had the same problem with my old ipod and rockbox...so i changed for a new one and the same problem.....i tell you again, i am having only this problem since the release r13733-070629.

I need my ipod and i need rockbox......what can i do? any suggestion?

thanks
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Offline Febs

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Re: iPod 5,5 (80Gb) doesn´t switch on anymore
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2007, 04:22:28 AM »
You haven't said whether you have followed the suggestions earlier in the thread to reset your iPod using the Menu + Select combination.  Have you?
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Offline killo777

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Re: iPod 5,5 (80Gb) doesn´t switch on anymore
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2007, 04:39:19 AM »
ok, sorry, i thought that it was supposed to be done


ja, after the long charge i try a hard reset Menu+Select (pressing long time >40 sec) and with the hold key on-off first
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Offline mamboman

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Re: iPod 5,5 (80Gb) doesn´t switch on anymore
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2007, 05:58:35 AM »
the reset seems quite inconsistent to me, sometimes it takes 5 seconds, it can take up to 40 seconds.. very odd
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