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iPod 5,5 (80Gb) doesn´t switch on anymore
killo777:
ok,
let´s take it in the right way.
for sure i wasn´t 24 hours with the right charger, why? because a test with 8 hours can show me if i am charging the ipod.
1.- It could be a problem with the battery, but, i found a reproducible problem. With two ipods 80 gb i had the same failure problem, with the build r13733-070629. My ipod is always with battery full because i have it connected to the laptop when i am working or at home....so i am always sure to have it charged.
The problem is, from one day to the other day i can not switch on anymore the ipod but i can hear a click, click from the hard disk before i am trying to do a hard reset, so....
2.- i am hearing the click always, incluiding when it is charging or when i have it on the table ( ok , you have to put the ipod near your ear to hear it).
3.- i don´t know how do you do the disk access, but i knew that at the begining of the implementation of rockbox with ipod80gb there were problems with the cluster access, so i supposed that could be related if my ipod is blocked trying to get access to some point of the hard disk
4.- the problem is that i can not make any log file or whatever to see what happen, i can understad that the problem is regarding the battery because that happened to other users....ok, that i got it and i try it...but i can now sure 100% that in my case was not the problem
:-X regarding themes files or wps?? i don´t know
6.- in any case i am going to wait if i get a new ipod and then i will try to install a new version......
7.....because without RockBox ..... I don´t want to have an iPod.....
8.- to finish: Thanks to the developers for a great software and let´s try together to improve and develop a great Open Source software for mp3 players.
For me this thread can be closed, i gave yesterday again my ipod to the apple shop, they told me (was the second time in a week) that i will hear from them in a few days :-X and i hope to get a new one.
If i was so upset is because i love the rockbox and i had two ipods in a week with the same problem....and the only support was....charge the battery, charge the battery.....ok sorry if i wasn´t so clear but that was what i was doing this week....charging the battery from different ways
Llorean:
And you are completely ignoring the fact that Rockbox cannot cause a problem if Rockbox is not running. How do you expect the build of Rockbox to be the problem, if Rockbox isn't running, exactly?
Why do you ask for help, if you absolutely REFUSE to do what you're told? Someone says "Charge it this way" and you say "I don't need to, I already did it a different way." If you know what's wrong, why ask for help? If you don't know what's wrong, why not try what we say, instead of saying "I don't need to."
You are jumping to conclusions "I had a problem twice, and I had Rockbox installed both times." Anyone who's taken a basic class in logic knows that correlation does not imply causation. You also plugged it into your laptop both times. Maybe your USB port managed to short something both times? There are any number of things I'm sure you did both times, but don't believe could be the cause. Did you press the play button on both iPods?
My point is that you've speculated wildly, and refused to do things in a clear manner, and then complained when someone got frustrated that you refuse to actually perform the instructions you got when you requested help. With your next iPod, don't install Rockbox, and see if it develops problems.
Remember, software is deterministic: Given the same instruction set, on properly functioning processors, the same output will result. If this were a simple software bug as you suggested, it would affect everyone that ran the build you quoted, wouldn't it?
DefineByte:
--- Quote from: Llorean on July 11, 2007, 07:14:12 AM ---And you are completely ignoring the fact that Rockbox cannot cause a problem if Rockbox is not running. How do you expect the build of Rockbox to be the problem, if Rockbox isn't running, exactly?
--- End quote ---
Okay, so it might not be Rockbox (I like the faulty USB port idea) but just because it's not running at start-up doesn't rule out Rockbox as the cause. It could well have got the iPod into a state where it couldn't start-up the next time.
A few times with my iPod Rockbox has said that it was shutting down but the iPod has refused to start-up the next time without a hard reset. After the hard reset the battery has been noticeably lower than at the time of the shutdown.
Still, as you say, basic steps should be followed in order to rule anything in/out.
Llorean:
Still, though, with you the Hard Reset works. Your case is actually a known glitch that seems to affect 5Gs and Nanos (including those without Rockbox installed, when the Apple firmware chooses to go into 'deep sleep', the equivalent of a Rockbox shut down.)
His description suggests at least that it's attempting to boot up, but unable to continue with the process, and he claimed attempts at hard reset, so it seems very reasonable that his isn't the usual power down glitch.
That being said, I'm open to the possibility that perhaps something else has happened, but if the user's unwilling to actually try everything recommended, it's very difficult to know what's been tried.
DefineByte:
I guess the only way it could be the same problem was if it was left in the "deep sleep" state long enough to completely drain the battery. That would probably take weeks, if not longer, though (unless it's not as deep a sleep as people think). So, yeah, probably not. :)
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