Sansa 280 vs First generation iPod Nano

[Liver]

First off, I really really like RockBox and thanks to all the wonderful people that make it possible.

Currently I have an iPod, first generation, 4 gig nano.  With rockbox it has some annoying bugs.  Such as not being able to charge from the wall outlet, so I always have to use my computer.  Battery life is poor, and if I leave it alone (without the hold slider activated) then the battery drains.

Probably the biggest concern is that I can NOT use my ipod with any docking station (have to use with headphones).  The charging capacity of the docks sends it into a forever restart pattern (much like the wall charger).

Those are quite annoying, however much much better than the original Apple software.

I was wondering if the Sansa would be a better option?  I know it has more capacity, but was wondering if I would have more functionality.

Also if you know what I am doing wrong with the Nano, please let me know.  I recently did a clean, updated (re) install with the same problems.

Thanks

[mschneider]

well it depends on what you are planning to use your player for. For example, video on the nano is much better than on the sansa (although i do fine with video on mine). It does have more space and a large screen but i'm pretty sure audio playback would be the same. the nano is probably a lot more stable than the sansa though.

[gnu]

Reboot into the Apple OS before you plug it into a wall charger / docking station.
Does it still reboot?
I had a nano before and my battery didn't drain with the hold switch deactivated.

[bascule]

First off, you are not turning it off properly. If you do a (really) long press on the play button, it does a proper shutdown and lasts for weeks if not used.

This may also contribute to your other problems, as a proper shutdown saves settings.

As for charging, I never had a wall charger with my Nano, but I had no problems with charging via USB except the annoyance of resetting afterwards.

[soap]

I use a wall charger and my Nano booted into Rockbox w/o problems.
To echo gnu and bascule, I have no problems with my Nano's battery draining when left unused for long periods of time.

[Llorean]

Imagine I said exactly what Soap just said.

Battery life isn't great, but this is known on all PortalPlayer targets, and complex accessories are pretty much out, but that's also a pretty widely known thing, but wall charging works, and the power doesn't drain while it's turned off.

[Liver]

I do a proper shut down each time.  Long hold of the the play pause and it does indeed shutdown.

If I do the above and do not lock the hold button (so the orange is showing) then I can expect it to be dead by the morning.

I can not charge by the wall charger.  It goes into the forever restart cycle.  I could restart with Apple and then wall charge, but I would like to use a docking station (like a JBL radial) to listen to music for the room.

It seems from this thread that the Sansa is buggier?  

If you do not have a problem with wall charging or docking stations, could you please send a link to the version of RockBox?  Or a PM?

Thanks

[soap]

Liver, I get this behavior on all stock builds in recent history (=as far as my old brain can remember.)
I don't think people are arguing that the Sansa is buggier, just that your problems are very atypical.


Are you using an unsupported build, Liver?

EDIT:
Ahh, looking at your post history you have been having charging issues.
I honestly think part of your problem is a hardware fault.  (Assuming your wall charger isn't to blame - try another.)

[Liver]

Are you using an unsupported build, Liver?

EDIT:
Ahh, looking at your post history you have been having charging issues.
I honestly think part of your problem is a hardware fault.  (Assuming your wall charger isn't to blame - try another.)

Using the latest build off the build page.

Yes, I have always had charging issues.  I will now troubleshoot the charger.  That is the common component, I have issues with two chargers.

So assuming it is the charger . . . Do you guys have any issues with http://www.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=JBLRADIALWHT&Language=ENG&Country=US&Region=USA&cat=MME&ser=RAD

that dock?