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iPod Build... Any use
munkifisht:
I am on the look out for a new player, and was thinking of the iAudio x5, but because it's discontinued the prices on the remaining units has shot up, And looking at what’s around and for what price, it looks as though the iPod is such good value for money that I am going to have to bite the bullet and jump on that band wagon, although it is not something I really want to do. So here is my questions,
• I would like to know how far along the iPod build is, is it anywhere near the iriver h1x0 or h3x0 builds, or does it maybe surpass them.
• What new features are there in the build. I have read that recording is available, and I was reading a hack to do with a recording feature on 2nd gen iPods, I was wondering if this is the same method, this guy was recording via the audio out slot.
• Does RB work with the iPod database structure?
• How is navigation. Does RB on the iPod allow you to add music on the fly, with out iTunes software.
• Is there any way to reset the iPod easily, if problems do occour.
• If music is added on the fly and sue the iPod as an external hard disc, will the iPod’s standard database recognise it. Is the install process simple.
• Is it still possible to boot to iPod’s standard firmware.
• Is RB able to handle video yet.
• How buggy/stable is the RB build?
I think that’s it, I know, loads of Qs’ any help would be great.
Monkeytamer:
--- Quote from: munkifisht on July 05, 2007, 04:33:35 AM ---• I would like to know how far along the iPod build is, is it anywhere near the iriver h1x0 or h3x0 builds, or does it maybe surpass them.
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There are still bugs that need to be worked out with power management, as there is a significant difference in battery life while using Rockbox in comparison to the original firmware; the issues with the processor and freezing have as of recently been alleviated (for earlier generations), although the video chip in the iPod Video has no documentation and is not used at all, thus limiting its video capabilities.
--- Quote ---• Does RB work with the iPod database structure?
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Yes
--- Quote ---• How is navigation. Does RB on the iPod allow you to add music on the fly, with out iTunes software.
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Yes, it acts much like an external drive, with drag and drop capabilities.
--- Quote ---• Is there any way to reset the iPod easily, if problems do occour.
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Yes, simply holding menu and the select button simultaneously for about 5-10 seconds will reset the device.
--- Quote ---• If music is added on the fly and sue the iPod as an external hard disc, will the iPod’s standard database recognise it. Is the install process simple.
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No, the standard database will not recognize music that is simply dragged and dropped. The install process is rather painless, although it be stressed to read the manual carefully nonetheless.
--- Quote ---• Is it still possible to boot to iPod’s standard firmware.
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Yes, dual booting is possible.
--- Quote ---• Is RB able to handle video yet.
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Yes, although it is not ideal due to the limitations of the hardware, and as stated before the iPod Video does not make use of its video chip.
--- Quote ---• How buggy/stable is the RB build?
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That would be in the eyes of the beholder. I have not used Rockbox on an iPod in a while, but it should be fairly stable. I'm sure others will be able to offer better anecdotal experience.
gnu:
--- Quote from: munkifisht on July 05, 2007, 04:33:35 AM ---• What new features are there in the build. I have read that recording is available, and I was reading a hack to do with a recording feature on 2nd gen iPods, I was wondering if this is the same method, this guy was recording via the audio out slot.
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If you care about recording, get the X5. I have one myself, and I'm fully content with it. I had an iPod nano before, and rockbox was the only reason why I kept it so long ;)
Yotto:
I have used Rockbox on an iPod for over a year now, and love it. I've done experimental builds, daily builds, hourly builds... And I don't think I've ever had any problems that were because I was using an iPod. And I've never had a problem that I would consider serious (i.e., a reboot fixed it)
My friend, however, has installed it twice and uninstalled it less than 24 hours later both times, swearing (both times) to never install it again.
So, I suppose, your mileage may vary.
soap:
--- Quote from: Monkeytamer on July 05, 2007, 04:58:28 AM ---• I would like to know how far along the iPod build is, is it anywhere near the iriver h1x0 or h3x0 builds, or does it maybe surpass them.
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iPod interface is slower than the H100/H300.
Battery life is ~half. http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodRuntime
No working remote. Many commercial iPod accessories don't fully work. http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodAccessories
Recording is buggy. (You record through the line-in pins on the dock connector. 5/5.5th generation iPods do not have a mic-level input through the headphone jack.)
Winners, by far, are the iRiver H100/H300s.
--- Quote from: Monkeytamer on July 05, 2007, 04:58:28 AM ---
--- Quote from: munkifisht on July 05, 2007, 04:33:35 AM ---• Does RB work with the iPod database structure?
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Yes
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Rockbox can not read the iTunes database, BUT Rockbox can create its own database structure by reading the metadata off of the funky-named tracks iTunes places on the iPod.
--- Quote from: Monkeytamer on July 05, 2007, 04:58:28 AM ---
--- Quote from: munkifisht on July 05, 2007, 04:33:35 AM ---• Is there any way to reset the iPod easily, if problems do occour.
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Yes, simply holding menu and the select button simultaneously for about 5-10 seconds will reset the device.
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This is a Hardware reset and will always work if done correctly.
--- Quote from: Monkeytamer on July 05, 2007, 04:58:28 AM ---
--- Quote from: munkifisht on July 05, 2007, 04:33:35 AM ---• Is RB able to handle video yet.
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Yes, although it is not ideal due to the limitations of the hardware, and as stated before the iPod Video does not make use of its video chip.
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