[iPod 5G] Read iPod native playlists in Rb database

[mrmimis06]

Respect.   lol. I entered a comment and you basically insulted me. Typical of a woman. Your unbelievable.  You and Rockbox can go profanity removed, lol. Im sorry im not willing to spend hours contributing to your open source software.  Shoot, but I know a profanity removed load of people with ipods and other mp3 players that might've been interested in using it. You see, many of us can contribute in different forms Lloreen or whatever your name is. Some can contribute by writing code, other by word of mouth, other by donating money, others by using the software and report bugs, etc..  Not everyone wants to be a computer nerd and again, spend 20 hours a day creating plug ins.

So let me ask you this. Rockbox IS NOT FOR THE MASSES, COMPUTER GEEKS ARE ONLY WELCOMED. MUST CREATE PLUGINS AND CONTRIBUTE IN ORDER TO ASK QUESTIONS IN THE FORUM!! IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO ABIDE BY THIS RULE, YOU WILL BE DISMEMBERED BY OUR ROCKBOX CREW ...  

Can you agree to this Lloreen. Just say this, please, for me, just once. I just need to hear from you. Please.

[Llorean]

Again, try learning to read. There's an A in there, I'll let you spot it, it's not hard.

What aren't welcome are people who can't be bothered to follow the rules. We have lots of people who don't contribute anything, and just use the software. But if you say "You guys should do this" you'll be answered with "You're more than welcome to do it yourself" because you are NOT paying for this software, and EVERYBODY WHO WORKS ON IT IS A VOLUNTEER.

If I volunteered to come to your house and paint your door, and you said "Hey, you should paint my cabinets too" would you be offended if I said "No, but you can borrow my paint?"

Because believe it or not, that's the exact same situation, it's just rather evident you're too lost in your own world to see it, and too hung up on the fact that you think a woman's arguing with you. Guess what: I'm a guy. That name's not female, it's completely fictional.

And the next time you break our forum rules, you're banned, so be careful of your word choice, swearing and sexist comments both aren't welcome here, and masking a word doesn't change what it is.

[elborak]

Sigh... this is why preschools shouldn't have internet access.

Look mrmoose, it's simple. Those who write the code decide what gets implemented. So there are three choices: join the workers, be happy with what the workers give you, or go away.

Here's voting for #3.

[mrmimis06]

Thats fine Ms. Lloreen. If you want to ban me you can go right ahead. I made suggestions when I first commented in this thread.  You guys need to learn some public relations skills. I never came at your or anybody in an aggressive or disrespectful way.  I was actually pretty simple and polite. And "baam" , you respond in such a manner that would make John McEnroe proud.  Im like, geeez, are you having a bad day. A simple "Please dont ask those types of questions unless willing to contribute  " would have been fine. But no. I get insulted and bombarded and than elborak , who not long ago also got hammered , starts to defend you. What is this world coming too.

Elborak, I hope your donating to rockbox. I actually was siding with you when you first commented on the thread.  But your right, this is preschool

Rockbox is obviously not for me and several million people.  I will no longer comment. I am sorry Ms. Looreen for offending you in anyway. I will be the bigger person and offer my apologies. I should stay away from rockbox and ban myself.

Goodbye rockbox, it was nice knowing you.

[elborak]

Edit: petty snipe removed.  I should act more respectful even when dealing with folks who show no respect in return.

[saratoga]

Thats fine Ms. Lloreen.

Ugh, Llorean's clearly a dude.

[AlexP]

He is clearly just trolling now, this thread has got silly, although it was quite amusing to see Llorean finally lose his temper!

For the record, you can very easily create playlists on the PC, using any program you like that can do m3u, such as WinAmp, foobar....

What we can't do at the moment is read the iTunes playlists as they are stored in a non-standard format.  Whilst someone could write this, none of the current devs uses iTunes, and as Rockbox is just for fun, they don't want to spend time on it.  Hence if someone really wants iTunes playlist support they shall have to write it themselves.

Now, deep breath everyone

[ooosadface]

Ok, I waited for things to cool down a bit before I registered and started posting... First off, thanks for RockBox, I will be donating soon.

As far as iTunes playlists are concerned, I think vcardenas might have been pushed to the side during all the ruckus. The tiny piece of software he offered in his post here worked wonders on my smart playlists in iTunes!

The playlists stores songs by the song filename and since iTunes converts all filenames into a 4 character code it makes it a bit difficult to know what the song is in the list. But the playlist is still 100% functional and the title display during playback is spot on (including the 'Next' title).

vcardenas - if you could tweak it to get the title name as the displayed name in the created .m3u8 list that would rock (no pun intended).

What I do now is, maintain what music I want on my iPod via iTunes (since I have too much to fit on my 30gb disk) and manage my playlist via iTunes and re-run this little app when I make a change.

Thanks vcardenas!

[choodo]

Hi...

I have a little application that i made in .net using the library SharePodLib that i've been using for exactly the same purpose you want: generating playlist for rockbox from the SmartPlaylists in iTunesDB... so i want to share it.

It reads all the Smart Playlists stored in the Ipod generated with iTunes, and creates a playlist for each one with the same name in *.m3u8 format, so it can be read from rockbox. The playlists created are stored in the "Playlists" folder in the iPod.

You must have iTunes closed and it needs .NET framework 2.0 to run (can be downloaded from here).

The app is here.

Hope it can help you.

thanx a lot ! very useful!

[PaperArtillery]

I have just joined the forums here as a huge fan of the Rockbox software; the Foobar plugin worked gloriously well on my 4G iPod, and perhaps for the sake of all involved in the altercation earlier we can make this solution to a common problem a little more known?  It would save the moderation a lot of heartache, or headache, it would seem.

Keep up the grand work!  You'll never hear a complaint out of me so long as Rockbox continues to grow; I wish I could code, or come within some semblance thereof, but I don't think I'm cut out for much more than HTML, XML and CSS.

 

[crzyboyster]

Llorean: How do you manage to handle these forums and the emotional troubles it entails? I have seen so many arguments with you and people pestering you (me included) about rockbox features and the like.

How do you do it? You're like superman to me.

[GodEater]

Keep up the grand work!  You'll never hear a complaint out of me so long as Rockbox continues to grow; I wish I could code, or come within some semblance thereof, but I don't think I'm cut out for much more than HTML, XML and CSS.

Why not have a good at the "redesign the front page" request that was submitted in the Annoucements forum a few months back. Despite lots of people who've made similar claims to yourself about not being able to do much except web pages - we've had not a single submission there yet.

[vcardenas]

Ok, I waited for things to cool down a bit before I registered and started posting... First off, thanks for RockBox, I will be donating soon.

As far as iTunes playlists are concerned, I think vcardenas might have been pushed to the side during all the ruckus. The tiny piece of software he offered in his post here worked wonders on my smart playlists in iTunes!

The playlists stores songs by the song filename and since iTunes converts all filenames into a 4 character code it makes it a bit difficult to know what the song is in the list. But the playlist is still 100% functional and the title display during playback is spot on (including the 'Next' title).

vcardenas - if you could tweak it to get the title name as the displayed name in the created .m3u8 list that would rock (no pun intended).

What I do now is, maintain what music I want on my iPod via iTunes (since I have too much to fit on my 30gb disk) and manage my playlist via iTunes and re-run this little app when I make a change.

Thanks vcardenas!

To ooosadface and choodo, i'm glad that you two found useful my app. This motivates me to improve it a little, and i share it to everyone in  

http://vcardenasblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/ipod-to-rockbox-playlist-converter.html

ooosadface:  you are right about the filenames in 4 characters... to address this i made that the playlist generated to be in M3U Extended Format, so it can be correctly shown if the patch made for Xinlu Huang is accepted (or at least applied in a unsopported build).

The patch is FS#7652

[kiwibird]

Hi all, just thought I'd mention my own story in case someone on a Mac (who doesn't like being dependent on wine) wants to convert their iTunes playlists to the m3u/m3u8 (rockbox) format. Here's what I did:

1. Downloaded Songbird.
2. Let it import all my iTunes stuff.
3. Added the extension Playlist Export Tool
4. Exported my playlists to ~/Music
5.

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rsync -avW --progress --size-only --delete ~/Music/* /Volumes/IPODNAME/Music/6.

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touch /Volumes/IPODNAME/iPod_Control/Music/database.ignore

At the moment, since I'm still "just testing" rockbox, I have two copies of my music on the iPod, one in the iTunes-folder (iPod_Control/Music) with their ugly naming scheme, and one in Music. Reason being, I don't like having lots of four-letter words in my playlists, but I also want to be able to dual-boot. The database.ignore file makes sure we don't get duplicates from iPod_Control.

Regarding the playlist export: when I looked at the files, they had the full local path (/Users/username/Music) but somehow Rockbox played them alright. Crazy stuff. Not sure if this is something that works completely, but there have been several requests off the extension developer to add support for relative paths too, hopefully someone will code that.

Anyhow, point being: this setup works for me, I hope it helps possible other people searching the forums and wondering what to do with their millions of iTunes playlists.

Thanks to all the developers for making Rockbox, I think I might be sticking with it :-)

On a side note: Would it be an idea to perhaps have a forum for questions that are explicitly not meant for developers? A forum where users are free to whine about this or that, you know, get it out of their system, until someone walks in and tells them "hey, just look at http://... , someone fixed it for us!" Eh?

[Febs]

On a side note: Would it be an idea to perhaps have a forum for questions that are explicitly not meant for developers? A forum where users are free to whine about this or that, you know, get it out of their system, until someone walks in and tells them "hey, just look at http://... , someone fixed it for us!" Eh?

These forums are specifically geared towards Rockbox users already.  Relatively few of the developers monitor the forums.  Most development-related discussion takes place on IRC or the developer mailing list.

We're happy to respond to questions and to try to solve problems here.  We also have a feature request forum for fielding suggestions for new features.  I'm not inclined to create a forum that is specifically intended to let people "whine."  If they have a question, they can ask it, and we're here to help answer.