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[iPod 5G] Read iPod native playlists in Rb database

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AlexP:
Anyone is welcome to write anything they want, but currently none of our developers want this feature.  If someone else wants it, they are of course free to write it.

etien:
And I accept and totally understand that, and agree that runawaywind's suggestion wasn't really in scope with your project goals. I was just reacting to the tone of the replies made to him right after his first post, which i felt were a bit hostile.

As for my suggestion, a tool to import iTunes playlists would complete nicely Rockbox to make it a true replacement firmware. Just keep in mind that unlike the devs who have probably been using RB for some time, most users will come with a few years of using a different player behind them, hence in my instance the iTunes playlists which would take a lifetime to reproduce in RB. I am not asking the RB team to get to work straightaway, I am just flagging out that the need is out there, in case someone with the same need and the necessary knowledge reads this.

GodEater:
The trouble is we get a lot of people who suggest things that they feel are necessary, and very few volunteers to actually do the work.

As I said before, until someone who does need this and is ready to do the work, then it won't happen.

Rockbox isn't designed for end users - it's written by people who enjoy doing so, and who enjoy the end result. Anyone who isn't contributing is basically enjoying the fruits of that labour. Features are added by people interested in doing so in general - and very rarely (I actually can't think of any cases) because end users demand it.

etien:
I didn't say what I suggested is necessary or a demand, I actually used the words "nice-to-have". A bonus. A complement. And would gladly volunteer to do it myself if I had the knowledge! I think RB is a tremendous project, one which outshines most if not all alternative OSes I have experienced (in a way that I've seen accomplished by only one other project, XBMC).

I guess what I was pointing out is that if a request gets posted, it is not necessarily to get you to do it simply because someone asks for it, but to flag out something that you might not have thought of, or that you had on your todo list, but with maybe lower priority. Knowing that other users would like this or that bit may help you decide what to do first, or make you itch in a place you didn't know could itch, to re-use your metaphor.

RB is designed for end-users, what you are actually saying is that the end-users are the devs themselves. What I was saying is that because we outsiders cannot have another input (as you don't seem to accept donations, there is precious little I could do except maybe come around and play guitar while you code, since this is my trade), we can only voice what we think could improve the product, in the hope that it will coincide with what you think could improve it.

If not then why not have a private forum opened only to devs? That would nicely sort out your problem of being inundated with requests i¬/

In any case, keep up the good work. It doesn't matter if you are not doing it for us, we are all thankful anyway. I am now (almost) freed from the iShackles...

Llorean:
1) Donations are accepted, visit the front page of rockbox.org
2) We share the project both in the hopes that more people will use it, and that some of those will gain an interest in joining in development. The only "end-users" of any specific feature are the people who developed that feature to scratch an itch, as you put it. Feature Requests go in the Feature Request tracker, not on the forums, and it's highly unlikely the itch will be scratched by someone not itchy.

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