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Llorean:
End users are of course always nice, but the people who make development possible are "anyone who contributes." An example of contributing would perhaps include "deciding you want a feature, and then implementing that feature".

mamboman:
Well said bro. I would love that feature, but I am not going to complain because it's not there. If I cannot build it, i will just wait for it to be there. in the meantime I dual boot the 2 firmwares

AlexP:

--- Quote from: TeamHCN on July 10, 2007, 02:47:33 PM ---That being said, it would be nice if some of the staff

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There are no staff, only volunteers.

bluebrother:

--- Quote from: TeamHCN on July 10, 2007, 02:47:33 PM ---If Rockbox isn't intended as a replacement for the default Apple firmware, then what is it intended as? Rockbox is a competitor of iPod Linux and Apple's firmware, regardless of what anyone says about who the target audience is.
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No, it's not. Rockbox is "just" a project of people who like doing so. The intention of Rockbox is completely different to IPL, so it's definitely not a competitor. And speaking of AppleOS: it's not a competitor in terms we want people to use Rockbox. Everyone who likes it is free to do (as it is open source), but no-one is required to do so. The main advantage of Rockbox is doing things in a standardized way, which includes using m3u as playlist format instead of some strange, unknown ItunesDB.

--- Quote ---That being said, it would be nice if some of the staff  would try to be a little more open to suggestions, and a little less defensive.
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Only volunteers are working on Rockbox, and they do that in their spare time. Having that said those people have the right (and will use that right) to work on the stuff they consider important and leave unimportant features out. Also, they are free to use the appropach they consider the "right" one and ignore all others. Just compare the different views between Windows and Linux users ... Like it or not, but people not involved in developing Rockbox might only make suggestions. And the majority of the devs has the same opinions about some general approaches.

--- Quote ---This is exactly the kind of thing that makes people not want to support a developer. It's not very nice, and it doesn't do anything to answer the question or address the suggestion of the end-user (the person who ultimately makes the software's continued development/success possible).
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Do you consider it nice to use some free software and only ask for rarely used feature, i.e. asking people to do additional work in their free time which result those developers are neither interested in nor have any benefit from it? Quite some users do so. (I don't want to count you to this group, but it is a fact that some users behave exactly that way. Rockbox is no product, and as you haven't paid anything for it you neither have any warranties nor the right for support or someone implementing what you want)
Anyone who wants a feature added is free to step up and implement it, and there are a lot of helpful developers that will actually help. They just won't do the actual work.

And speaking for myself: I don't think Rockbox needs users at all. It's fun enough working on it. I don't need more. There is this tiny difference between "need" and "nice to have" ;)

Just my 2 ct.

runawaywind:

--- Quote from: mamboman on July 11, 2007, 06:29:27 AM ---Well said bro. I would love that feature, but I am not going to complain because it's not there. If I cannot build it, i will just wait for it to be there. in the meantime I dual boot the 2 firmwares


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That's where I sit too.

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