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runawaywind:
I have done the appropriate prerequisites before posting. There were many related posts, but some had poor answers and others gave solutions that don't fully fit my situation.

I have over 150 Playlists in iTunes/iPod and cannot recreate all the m3u's by hand. Many of these are smart playlists that are changed on my computer regularly.

First I looked into TagCache (deprecated term for Database). So I guess I'm already using this since I auto update and all through the Database. What this is missing then is converting playlists (because it converts everything else).

Alternatives that aren't full solutions:
http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4771
This plugin is exactly what I need, but it looks like it's been abandoned. People were having some issues a year ago. Why not just integrate this into the database as default?

The program xplay reads iPod playlists/songs/etc so I could drag each playlist into a separate program to create the playlists, but Xplay is a trial only. This won't work because I constantly manage playlists within iTunes and they get changed accordingly in iPod.

http://www.ericdaugherty.com/dev/itunesexport/
iTunes export only works with the itunesDB (not on iPod), and will write the wrong paths to iPod drive since I sync with iTunes ().

I know that winamp and foobar can create m3u, but I won't be able to make these same playlist without some process that would (in a more automated way) clone the iTunes xml playlists into compatible rockbox m3u (it would takes days to find/sort/order the same playlists).

Thanks. And thumbs up to Rockbox.

Llorean:
Seeing as Rockbox is a "replacement" firmware, that only partially offers the ability to run alongside another firmware, why should it add in an option that is only useful specifically if you're *not* using it as a replacement, adding code bloat and a decreased audio buffer for anyone who doesn't use a program not meant to be used with Rockbox in the first place?

There are many programs that can create valid playlists for Rockbox, and I'm sure some can do the equivalent of the iTunes smart playlists. In fact, in many cases one can reproduce that functionality using the Database in Rockbox itself with custom filters.

bluebrother:

--- Quote from: runawaywind on July 02, 2007, 06:58:59 PM ---http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4771
This plugin is exactly what I need, but it looks like it's been abandoned. People were having some issues a year ago. Why not just integrate this into the database as default?

--- End quote ---
Because it would be awful to support: it relies on an unknown file format, which might change anytime.

There is enough software around that can export to m3u playlists. An example is Floola http://www.floola.com/

runawaywind:
No problem. I understand it's not an objective to overcome other software, but just wanted to throw it out there. My gripe however, it is not quite as easy to actually replace playlists if it's really to be a r"eplacement." And it sort of defeats the purpose of even developing a database that is meant to copy the iTunesDB if Rockbox is not concerned with the default firmware.

I haven't tried floola yet, but I'm still procrastinating recreating/exporting hundreds of playlists one by one.

I appreciate the replies anyhow.

EDIT: floola does export m3u, but it copies associated files with it. It has no way of actually referring to original files linked to iTunes playlists

Llorean:
The Rockbox database isn't meant to copy the iTunes DB. It's the Rockbox database. It's existed on one form or another since before Rockbox ran on iPods.

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