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Offline tman

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How much battery life do you lose with EQ, crossfeed, dither, etc.? (gigabeat)
« on: June 27, 2007, 12:55:48 PM »
Does anyone know about how much battery life you lose by activiting the various features (EQ, crossfeed, dither, etc.) on the gigabeat F40??
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Re: How much battery life do you lose with EQ, crossfeed, dither, etc.? (gigabea
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2007, 12:59:39 PM »
Probably not much.  The CPU is so fast, and I believe frequency scaling is disabled as well.
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Re: How much battery life do you lose with EQ, crossfeed, dither, etc.? (gigabea
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2007, 01:03:32 PM »
In terms of current draw, there is very little difference between playing music and not, so I don't imagine what you mentioned would add much more.

LCD makes the biggest difference I would think.

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/GigabeatInfo?rev=2;filename=Power.html

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Re: How much battery life do you lose with EQ, crossfeed, dither, etc.? (gigabea
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2007, 01:32:15 PM »
Quote from: BigBambi on June 27, 2007, 01:03:32 PM
In terms of current draw, there is very little difference between playing music and not, so I don't imagine what you mentioned would add much more.

LCD makes the biggest difference I would think.

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/GigabeatInfo?rev=2;filename=Power.html



Thanks for the replies everyone.

So you're saying that there isn't much difference in battery life between playing music constantly and not playing any?

If so, that is surprising to me.

Also, regarding that link, how can 'NOT PLAYING LCD OFF (70)' draw more current than 'Playing mp3 128kbps lcd off' (46-55)???
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Re: How much battery life do you lose with EQ, crossfeed, dither, etc.? (gigabea
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2007, 01:40:54 PM »
Quote from: tman on June 27, 2007, 01:32:15 PM

Also, regarding that link, how can 'NOT PLAYING LCD OFF (70)' draw more current than 'Playing mp3 128kbps lcd off' (46-55)???

Theres a bug that causes how power draw when the system is first turned on.  I'm pretty sure those measurements are skewed by it.
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Re: How much battery life do you lose with EQ, crossfeed, dither, etc.? (gigabea
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2007, 01:57:44 PM »
Quote from: saratoga on June 27, 2007, 01:40:54 PM
Quote from: tman on June 27, 2007, 01:32:15 PM

Also, regarding that link, how can 'NOT PLAYING LCD OFF (70)' draw more current than 'Playing mp3 128kbps lcd off' (46-55)???

Theres a bug that causes how power draw when the system is first turned on.  I'm pretty sure those measurements are skewed by it.

Huh. So when you need to not listen for a while I guess it's better for battery life to just pause the player rather than turn it off?
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Re: How much battery life do you lose with EQ, crossfeed, dither, etc.? (gigabea
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2007, 02:10:34 PM »
When the player is first booted it draws more current until audio is played.  Thereafter if music is stopped, current draw is normal.  It is therefore best to turn off the player when idle (of course).  The excess draw will only manifest if you turn on the gigabeat then don't play music.  As soon as you play anything, everything works as expected.
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Re: How much battery life do you lose with EQ, crossfeed, dither, etc.? (gigabea
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2007, 03:24:45 PM »
Quote from: BigBambi on June 27, 2007, 02:10:34 PM
When the player is first booted it draws more current until audio is played.  Thereafter if music is stopped, current draw is normal.  It is therefore best to turn off the player when idle (of course).  The excess draw will only manifest if you turn on the gigabeat then don't play music.  As soon as you play anything, everything works as expected.

OK - thanks. Don't let it sit w/out playing music after turn-on - check.
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Re: How much battery life do you lose with EQ, crossfeed, dither, etc.? (gigabeat)
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2007, 02:43:38 AM »
Alternatively, set the player to resume on start-up (Settings > System > Start Screen > Resume Playback) and it will be automagically fixed  ;D

This also explains why playing Jewels appeared to chew so much battery for me; I was just booting and going straight to the plugins :(
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Re: How much battery life do you lose with EQ, crossfeed, dither, etc.? (gigabea
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2007, 04:42:07 AM »
Quote from: bascule on June 28, 2007, 02:43:38 AM
This also explains why playing Jewels appeared to chew so much battery for me; I was just booting and going straight to the plugins :(

The backlight also consumes quite a lot.

Here are some figures: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/viewfile/Main/GigabeatInfo?rev=1;filename=current-07-06-26.txt
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Re: How much battery life do you lose with EQ, crossfeed, dither, etc.? (gigabea
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2007, 01:11:30 PM »
Why is frequency scaling disabled anyway?
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Re: How much battery life do you lose with EQ, crossfeed, dither, etc.? (gigabeat)
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2007, 01:35:06 PM »
Because enabling it seemed to lessen battery life, and with it disabled we already get an equivalent amount of battery life to the original firmware, if not a little bit more (jury seems to be out on it).
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