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Ipod mini won't power on from SELECT/On button

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RotAtoR:

--- Quote from: Flid on June 25, 2007, 09:02:21 AM ---Why would this be a hardware issue, if the on/select buttons works as soon as the power-on is actually triggered? Very strange.

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Exactly what software do you think is running when the device is powered off? ;) It has to be a lower level problem than Rockbox since it's not even running at that point.

DefineByte:
Are you sure it doesn't start up if you hold menu + select for a while (around 30 seconds)?

Flid:
I was just thinking a quirk in the bootloader preventing anything from loading on keypress. If not, then it must be hardware (~assumes that there is a hardwired connection between < select > and a power-up that's seperate from basic button signalling~). Has anyone done detailed disections of the iPod? Should this be moved to hardware forum?

davesmylie:
I hadn't done anything recently to the ipod - had upgraded to the current (at the time) version of rockbox about two or three months back.  Was just walking to work when rockbox crashed, and after restarting (as per normal), I was unable to start it.
At first I just assumed it was the battery, but that was quickly/easily ruled out.

I figure it has to be a hardware issue, but it's just plain weird that the buttons work fine once the OS is loaded. All I can think of is that Flid must be correct in assuming there is a seperate connection between < select > and power-on that has broken. Supporting this, I've noticed that if I go into the apple OS, and reboot it (as opposed to putting it to sleep by hold down play), it won't start either. Where as it works fine -  starting on key press from sleep in the apple OS. (So i guess the sleep mode in the apple OS, isn't really a low level sleep like the rockbox one presumably is.

Thanks for your suggestions - should I move this to the hardware forum?

Cheers
Dave Smylie

Llorean:
Please do not use < and > adjacent to letters. Without putting spaces, they're interpreted as markup.


And yes "Sleep" in the AppleOS is very different from actually powering off the iPod (what we do). It's essentially a low power mode, but still on. If you leave it in that mode long enough (I believe the time is a day or two, but don't know exactly) it will eventually go into what Apple has called "Deep Sleep" which is an actual poweroff, I believe.

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