Weird DÁTÁBÁ~¹.TÃD and CÏNÆIÇ .CÆG files in .rockbox!?

[kieran]

Hi Guys,

Firstly, I just want to thank the Rockbox team for such a brilliant project. They've turned my 80gb Ipod into something so much more user friendly than Apple themselves could have ever made it. I owe you some gratitude indeed!

Moving on from this, I do have an issue. Somehow, using the Ipod Video 64mb current builds (I'm not sure when they sprung up - but I've been fairly consistantly updating to latest builds, perhaps once a week/fortnight for the last few weeks at least) I've managed to get some corruption of some sort in my .rockbox folder, and its chewing up my disk space!

Anyway, some files have cropped up in my .rockbox directory that I cannot delete in windows, or even using a dos prompt (and still suing the escape codes for the symbols).

Here is my .rockbox directory:

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J:\.rockbox>dir
 Volume in drive J is KIERAN'S IP
 Volume Serial Number is 890C-F46A

 Directory of J:\.rockbox

26/05/2007  12:46 AM              .
26/05/2007  12:46 AM              ..
15/06/2007  06:16 AM               322 rockbox-info.txt
15/06/2007  06:16 AM           521,240 rockbox.ipod
15/06/2007  06:16 AM             6,937 tagnavi.config
15/06/2007  06:16 AM               587 viewers.config
26/05/2007  12:46 AM              wps
26/05/2007  12:46 AM              viewers
26/05/2007  12:47 AM              themes
26/05/2007  12:47 AM              rocks
26/05/2007  12:47 AM              langs
26/05/2007  12:47 AM              icons
26/05/2007  12:47 AM              eqs
26/05/2007  12:47 AM              docs
26/05/2007  12:47 AM              codepages
26/05/2007  12:47 AM              codecs
26/05/2007  12:47 AM              backdrops
26/05/2007  12:48 AM              doom
26/05/2007  12:49 AM              fonts
15/06/2007  11:10 PM                44 nvram.bin
26/05/2007  12:51 AM               140 config01.cfg
01/06/2071  05:20 PM     2,147,516,888 C╧Nâ•žIâ•Ÿ á.Câ•žG
01/06/2071  05:20 PM     2,147,516,478 _╨Lâ”´Yâ• ~â–’. á
30/05/2071  10:55 PM     2,147,516,864 _â•ŸL┘Pâ•š~â–’. á
01/06/2071  04:33 PM     2,147,532,004 Dâ”´Tâ”´Bâ”´~â–“.T├D
01/06/2071  05:20 PM     2,147,782,832 Dâ”´Tâ”´Bâ”´~│.T├D
01/06/2071  04:33 PM     2,147,523,828 Dâ”´Tâ”´Bâ”´~┤.T├D
01/06/2071  04:33 PM     2,147,517,796 Dâ”´Tâ”´Bâ”´~â•¡.T├D
01/06/2071  04:34 PM     2,147,599,092 Dâ”´Tâ”´Bâ”´~â•¢.T├D
01/06/2071  04:34 PM     2,147,863,660 Dâ”´Tâ”´Bâ”´~â•–.T├D
01/06/2071  04:33 PM     2,147,519,796 Dâ”´Tâ”´Bâ”´~â••.T├D
01/06/2071  04:34 PM     2,147,713,420 Dâ”´Tâ”´Bâ”´~â•£.T├D
01/06/2071  04:34 PM     2,147,517,156 Dâ”´Tâ”´Bâ– 1â–‘.T├D
11/06/2071  04:13 PM     2,147,516,460 _╨Lâ”´Yâ• ~â–’. á
11/06/2071  04:13 PM     2,147,516,842 C╧Nâ•žIâ•Ÿ á.Câ•žG
09/06/2071  05:32 PM     2,147,516,864 _â•ŸL┘Pâ•š~â–’. á
04/06/2071  04:46 PM              R┼C╨R┼~â–’. á
05/06/2071  04:47 PM     2,147,520,285 C╧Nâ•žIâ•Ÿ0â–“.Câ•žG
05/06/2071  04:48 PM     2,147,520,285 Kâ•”Eá á á.Câ•žG
11/06/2071  06:19 PM     2,147,516,450 _╨Lâ”´Yâ• ~â–’. á
01/01/1601  10:00 AM     2,147,516,524 C╧Nâ•žIâ•Ÿ á.Câ•žG
15/06/2007  04:31 PM                36 .playlist_control
15/06/2007  11:09 PM               121 config.cfg
15/06/2007  09:51 PM              recpresets
              27 File(s) 42,951,789,367 bytes
              17 Dir(s)  35,204,743,168 bytes free


I think that CÏNÆIÇ  .CÆG is config.cfg and DÁTÁBÁ~¹.TÃD is Database.something
Although I don't care what they are really, its just that each seems to be chewing up 2gb of FAT, and I want them gone.

What I've had a couple of times, are freezes. Rockbox keeps merily playing, but the screen freezes, and the ipod controls stop responding. Just a hard reset is the only thing to release the lock-up. I'm not sure if this is what is causing it? As for 'what are you doing when it locks up', the answer is 'just playing mp3 music'. I've never seen it do it on the same song twice, so I don't think its mp3 specific.

I have my ipod on for hours on end at work, so rockbox gets a pretty thorough workout, and for the most part its fine. These lockups might be causing these mysterious files to be dumped, but I dont know. The thing is, I can't copy, delete, rename or do anything with these files. I can't even delete my .rockbox directory and start again, because I cannot delete those huge files which reside within my .rockbox dir. So I'm stuck!

If anyone has any ideas, help or tips, I'd love to hear them!!

cheers,
Kieran

[GodEater]

chkdsk.

That's a corrupt file system that is.

[nls]

Try checking the filesystem with chkdsk/scandisk or an equivalent tool.
You could also try deleting the files in rokbox.

[petur]

trying to delete won't help a thing, your filesystem is corrupted. If chkdsk doesn't help and you do not have a backup, try to copy as much from the player as possible and reformat (FAT32).

This can/will happen if you remove your device without performing unmounting/safe remove hardware. If you think this is not the case, file a bugreport. But you're the first to report this problem....

[kieran]

Hi Guys,

I managed to sort it with a chkdsk which I worked out myself the same night. I deleted the 'files' as much as I could, but kept getting rockbox *panic* errors - probably because there were not files, but misreported MFT fragments. The drive was horribly crosslinked, and I didn't seem to lose anything.

Its funny, I've never had an issue with pulling my ipod from the pc without dismounting ever before when just using the normal apple os..  Rockbox file handling must be more picky? I guess no other 80gb ipods have ever done this.. ?

anyway, thanks for helping.
best regards,
kieran

[bluebrother]

Its funny, I've never had an issue with pulling my ipod from the pc without dismounting ever before when just using the normal apple os..  Rockbox file handling must be more picky? I guess no other 80gb ipods have ever done this.. ?

Well, for the filesystem to get corrupted you need to pull the Ipod in the "right" moment. I don't know about Itunes, but I wouldn't be surprised if Itunes forces windows to flush all disk buffers after syncing to prevent such an issue. Rockbox can't to that, so when connecting the Ipod to the PC (using disk mode) you'll need to take care of that yourself. Windows XP also has an "optimize for fast removal" option that can help.

I don't think Rockbox file handling is be picky in any way -- Rockbox didn't corrupt the filesystem (well, at least I assume the problem occured by removing the Ipod from the PC without safely disconnecting it).

[soap]

Its funny, I've never had an issue with pulling my ipod from the pc without dismounting ever before when just using the normal apple os..  Rockbox file handling must be more picky? I guess no other 80gb ipods have ever done this.. ?

Do not forget that Rockbox boots into the "normal" Apple OS when you mount your iPod.  Rockbox file handling is not involved.