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Offline Tbull727

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Sansa Safe?
« on: June 13, 2007, 06:40:17 PM »
Hey I'm New to the forums I downloaded rockbox to my sansa e260 and was reading that it was still in beta form is that just an old post???? Or is there a large chance i'm gonna brick my player????
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Sansa Safe?
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2007, 06:55:05 PM »
It's not really in "beta". It's just not in "release" or "stable" form. There's not really an appropriate word for it, though, so many people like to use beta. As long as you actually follow the instructions in the manual, there is no known risk of bricking your player. You would have to do something specifically strange with tools or files other than those we provide to manage to brick it, or even get it to a point where it can't play music.
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Offline Tbull727

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Re: Sansa Safe?
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2007, 10:28:31 PM »
So dont screw around with the folder and i'm good?
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Offline JdGordon

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Re: Sansa Safe?
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2007, 11:23:24 PM »
no, the "dangerous" part if installing the custom bootloader, which as long as you follow the instructions and only use our files you will be fine.

once you have the bootloader your fine, you can even delete the .rockbox folder and you are still safe from bricking it (I and noone else wold suggest doing this though)
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Offline Vortex

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Re: Sansa Safe?
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2007, 03:12:28 PM »
It seems at least 90% of the people who bricked their Sansa messed around with Recovery Mode without knowing what they were doing.

As long as you keep to the instructions in the manual there is no risk of bricking your player. And even if you do brick it there are ways to recover your player (depending on how you bricked your player, the recovery procedure can be rather complicated, though).

If you ever have Problems with your player I suggest you keep to the information in the wiki or these forums, but double-check any advice you find here. In any case do not drop files onto your player in Recovery Mode unless you know _exactly_ what you are doing. :)
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Offline Tbull727

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Re: Sansa Safe?
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2007, 11:48:31 PM »
I dont know what recovery mode is and I dont absolutely need to do i?
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Offline Vortex

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Re: Sansa Safe?
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2007, 01:06:33 PM »
No you don't need to know what it is.

Like I said, Recovery Mode is only meant for repairing a non-functional player. As long as your player still runs you won't need it.
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Offline Commsman

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Re: Sansa Safe?
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2007, 02:09:57 PM »
I am using Rockbox on my Sansa and it is fantastic. Problems solved over the Sandisk firmware: REALLY fast fast forward and rewind, volume changing on restart, file management (I can delete podcasts I have listened to! Hooray!) jpg image viewing, Text file reading (eBooks anyone?!) and much much more. Rockbox is a delight.
The rough edges of the current version (June 2007) are:
- need to boot into Sansa mode to connect by USB (not hard, just one extra quick step)
- no easy way to view Album Art unless you are ready to patch files (a step to far for me - especially as even when one does this, the support for album art remains patchy - no art in ID3 tags supported for example)
- no support for my 2Gb MicroSD card yet (or any size card in fact). My main reason for having the Sansa is to listen to podcasts - I keep these in the main memory with extra music files on the MicroSD card. Again - I look forward to support for the addon cards - but in the meantime it not a problem to reboot into Sansa mode to listen to music.
Overall - I am dead chuffed.
Cheers
J
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Offline Vortex

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Re: Sansa Safe?
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2007, 06:35:10 AM »
If you head over to the Anything But iPod forums there are a few custom builds that contain (working) SD-Card support as well as Album Art. Try cpchan's build for example. http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=72

The main problem I have with rockbox on my Sansa is that it is not possible to listen to and browse through your music at the same time because the menu navigation gets really slow while playback is running. The OF remains smooth at all times.

Nonetheless I'm not using the OF anymore, except for transferring files of course.
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Offline JdGordon

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Re: Sansa Safe?
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2007, 08:27:38 AM »
Quote from: Vortex on June 21, 2007, 06:35:10 AM
The main problem I have with rockbox on my Sansa is that it is not possible to listen to and browse through your music at the same time because the menu navigation gets really slow while playback is running. The OF remains smooth at all times.

not in the snv version... if that is happening with a custom version (and going by your post im assuming you are using a custom version) then they have put a dud patch on, my guess is enabled frwquency scaling which doesnt work on the sansa
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Offline cpchan

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Re: Sansa Safe?
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2007, 08:39:13 AM »
Quote from: Vortex on June 21, 2007, 06:35:10 AM
Try cpchan's build for example. http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=72

The main problem I have with rockbox on my Sansa is that it is not possible to listen to and browse through your music at the same time because the menu navigation gets really slow while playback is running. The OF remains smooth at all times.

Hum, are you using my build. If it is a couple of days old it might be slower due to an earlier MicroSD card patch (but even then it was not slow on my Sansa). However. scrolling for me and other people are really fast now even when listening to music.

Anyway, if you want to discuss my build further, we should pick it up in one of my build threads.

Charles
 
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Offline Vortex

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Re: Sansa Safe?
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2007, 09:16:19 AM »
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not in the snv version...
I am using the svn version. When I play music I can scroll smoothly through the menus but only for a few seconds. Apparently then the playback buffer runs dry and it has to rebuffer, causing the menu navigation to lag extremely. I can reduce the lag (i.e. the time it needs to rebuffer) by not using the equalizer and playing low-bitrate songs, but like I said the OF manages to remain smooth even when playing high-quality files and using custom EQ settings.

I thought that this problem would be fixed with the GPIO button driver but that actually made no difference for me.

If this is a problem on my player only I would be glad if someone could help me fix it.

EDIT: I just downloaded a current build, removed the .rockbox folder from my player and the copied the newly downloaded version over. The problem, however, persisted.
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Offline JdGordon

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Re: Sansa Safe?
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2007, 09:28:04 AM »
must be the EQ then, I have no problems moving around the browsers or menus while playing music.
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Offline Vortex

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Re: Sansa Safe?
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2007, 09:29:02 AM »
But like I said I just reinstalled a current build after _deleting_ the .rockbox folder on my player. That means the equalizer was turned off.
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