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returning to "now playing" screen

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GodEater:

--- Quote from: LinusN on December 01, 2008, 07:14:18 AM ---I wouldn't mind having such an option in Rockbox (go to the WPS after a timeout, if music is playing). I wouldn't use it myself, but it is an often requested feature, and I don't think it would be that hard to implement.

Just my .02



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Gets my vote too.

Llorean:
As long as it's optional, and defaults to off, I don't object. It'd be a bad behaviour to suddenly "show up" when someone upgrades their build. Again, especially for blind users.

piggy:
Ok, I think I understand the difference in opinions after reading the new inputs and some further study.

In a way, the problem itself is tie with the limited key of Sansa, the screen and the difference of preference.

Unlike the old archo player and other new mp3 player, when the sansa goes time out with the backlight, the screen is totally BLACK. Hence if an user don’t return to WPS after some fiddling, the next press of key can end up anywhere that’s unintended.

This problem is conflicting with the need of user that would like the see the name of song in WPS without the intention to go anywhere to start with. At present, the all the sansa key in WPS force a user to go somewhere and comes back to see WPS.   

Interesting enough, I just notice in the latest build, someone solve this problem within the past week!! The short press of REC no longer go to REC mode but the screen lights up!!

Overall, I deduce that there is two camp of preference. The first camp prefers that the Main Menu should be the starting point VS the second camps prefer WPS should be the starting point.

Except during the first boot up, if a user is actively playing the music, I tend to think that WPS is actually the starting point of interaction. This need of second preference is increment by the way sansa operate where the screen is BLACK after backlight time out. The user is already lost if he doesn’t know what state he was in before the backlight time out. In this regard, I end up recommend finding way to return to WPS more quickly which is why I suggest the return to WPS in Main menu with short LEFT click.

If possible, I think the idea of short click with REC return to WPS is actually a BETTER IDEA!! The user who like main menu as starting can always click menu key for shortcut while the user who need to return WPS quickly can use short REC click as shortcut.

With extra button in other rockbox mp3 player, this need may not be as important.  But for sansa, this change will match to the old experience of archo rockbox where  one extra click of either 3 menu button or the OFF button takes the user back to WPS.  ;D

AlexP:
Or you could turn the "First keypress tuns on backlight" option.  Then if the backlight is off pressing any button will turn it on and do nothing else.

oayz:

--- Quote from: pixelma on December 01, 2008, 02:06:12 AM ---Using "Left" and this only in the main menu is, as Llorean pointed out, very inconsistent and won't be a "one button resume" too unless you are already in the main menu. Besides, "Long Left/Right" is already taken for the forced horizontal scrolling (which makes sense).
.... I'd be happy if any of you could give a try and comment.

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Acatually I was concerned only about quickly getting from MANU to WPS. It takes too many clicks getting back through 4-5 layers. Since left takes you one layer up it seems logical that long left takes you to the "top". I agree -horizontal scrolling is also important and does interfere with this proposal. Should long right  force bidirectional scroll while long left goes to WPS?

I also vote to have WPS timeout option.

If you need a help to try out new interface features on Sansa C200 - I can volonteer

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