Database Issues 5g Ipod 60gig

[Dreadneck]

Hi folks!

I am loving Rockbox!  The issue that I am having is related to the Database view. I read the entire manual and searched the forums/wiki and have tried the last 5 builds with the same issue. For some reason I have many tracks that wind up untitled in the Database view and if I play these tracks from DB view, most of the ID3 tags show as "no info".  If I look at these same tracks in File View, the ID3 info turns up just fine.  I even looked at the files in Winamp and it shows both ID3v1 and ID3v2 as being correct.  I pushed out all of the relevant Limits, so no issue there either. I have deleted and rebuilt the database several times as well.  Does anyone have a suggestion as to where I can go from here?  Thanks in advance

[Yotto]

You know what the song is though, right?  I would suggest you look in the database for that song.  My guess is you'll find it.

Here's what I think is happening: You have two mp3s on your iPod.  One of them is correctly tagged and its the one you're looking at with winamp.  There's another one (Perhaps in \recycled\, Windows loves to put stuff in that directory, but it could be anywhere) that has no id3 info.  I don't use the database, so I don't know the answer to this question, but can you see the file path in the database, or while listening can you some how bring up the file you're listening to, say via a WPS that shows full path?  I'd guess that you're not listening to the file you think you are.

The other option is you have something weird going on with your id3 tags.  perhaps some strange character in them that is giving the Database fits.  But I can't help you with that.  I'm just a lowly artist

[bascule]

To help resolve this, play each file (from File View and Database) and then from the WPS, do a long select to bring up the context menu and pick 'show ID3 Info'.

At the bottom of the list is the full path which will determine whether or not it is two different files you are listening to.

Also, of course it will display the ID3 info for the file, although I seem to remember that even then there can be differences between what is shown on the ID3 screen and what is shown on the WPS  

[Dreadneck]

I think that I have found the issue.  I looked a bit closer at the ID3 Tags on some of these files and it appears that there are 2 things that are confounding the database.

1.Some of the ID3 tags have extra spaces at the end of the field so it would look like this:

"Uncle Tupelo      " - This seems to register as "no info" in the database view. I guess it is some limitation of the parsing mechanism.  Removing the extra space clears this up.

2.In some songs,  common fields between V1 and V2 ID3 tags are different or missing in one and not the other. Example:

V2:
Artist "Uncle Tupelo"
Album: "Still Feel Gone"
Track: "Song"
Year: "" - There may be either a null, space or unreadable character in this field


V1:
Artist "Uncle Tupelo"
Album: "Still Feel Gone"
Track: "Song"
Year: "1993"

Copying the V1 to  the V2 corrects this issue.

I think that this happened at some point when working the tags between various applications through the years (Foobar/Winamp/Itunes) I think that Foobar in particular had a bad habit of catting blanks/nulls/odd characters to tags. Thanks for taking the time to help me look into this.  I hope this can help anyone else who has blunderful tags like me!

[bascule]

No problem...

...blunderful...

I like that, it's almost up there with 'automagically', which I think is such a descriptive word...