80 gig ipod freezes at random.

[jackel]

Same problem on my 80g with the most current version.  Just putting in my 2 cents.

[GodEater]

Can we get an indication from those that have reported this as to whether you use the database or not ?

[woodparis]

I use the database and I have the exact same problem, it freeze and I have to wait that my battery gets empty...


And By the way, the scrooling is damn slow...otherwise thank you guys !!!  

I may have a battery problem when it comes to charging it to report but let me try again to be sure about what I am going to report.

Once again thank you for this great job !

[GodEater]

I use the database and I have the exact same problem, it freeze and I have to wait that my battery gets empty...

Let's be clear on this - no-one has to wait for the battery to drain. Just perform Apple's hard reset and boot back into Rockbox again.

[aressto]

i dont use database, and problem still getting me crazy -
more than that my ipod 80gb 5g started to freeze allmost on the first composition.

switched to APPLE OS, until i'll find out problem to be sovled

sorry for my english

[GodEater]

How can you switch to the Apple OS if you were never using the database ?

Did you have two copies of your music on the iPod ?

[aressto]

yes, in DB i have different music than in folders  

switching is easy, pushing MENU when reset

[aressto]

freeze is not dependable from audio codec

flac, mp3, ape - same thing

and it does't denpeds from skin - any skin and it still freeze


ps. still sorry for my english  

[dip]

I had the freezing problem once with my iPod 5.5G 80GB. It was freezing during playback of an ogg file. The only unusal thing I recognized was that the ogg file was over 10 minutes in length which is unusual for my music (and yes, I use the database).

But I had "freezing" my iPod already several times not during playback but during it was turned off. That means when I tried to turn it on it did not react (except on pressing Menu und Select to reboot). Sometimes when trying to turn on I guess I saw a battery symbol (or a similar icon) centered in the middle of the screen only for a split second (but without the display light turned on) and then the iPod was dead and I had to reboot. Since the display light was not turned on it was hard to recognize and I may have missed it sometimes.

I don't know if this is related to the originally reported freezing problem but the shown (battery) symbol may give an indication in the direction of the bug.

[cool_walking_]

I also get the issue that dip described. I don't think it's related though, because I almost always get that issue, but I still haven't had the original issue (the one this thread is relating to) for a long time.  I was using the database for a short time a long time ago. I can't remember if the freezing was happening when I was using the database. I'll start using the database and see if it happens again.

[cool_walking_]

As a reminder, I have a 60GB 5G iPod.

For reference below, message 1:

Searching... 0 found ()

and message 2:

Searching... 0 found (PLAY/PAUSE to abort)

Build r13609-070610:

Navigating in the database gives message 1, then 2, before showing the "folder".
Sometimes when navigating, message 2 says "8 found" instead of "0 found". (tried in numerous "folders" with different amounts of songs/artists/etc, with only either 0 or 8 found)

Choosing "Database" from the main menu or returning to the database from the "now playing" (don't know the official name, the screen with the progress bar) screen shows 1-2-1-2, before showing the database.

Choosing "Database" from the main menu when the database is not initialised:

Database is not ready
Initialize now

SELECT = YES
Any other = NO

Select successfully builds the database. Any other button press returns to the main menu. Scrolling causes the freeze mentioned in this thread.

It hasn't frozen during playback so far (using database).

Build r13764-070702 (only used for a couple minutes):

Same as above, but navigating in database seems to only give each message once, instead of twice each. Sometimes only message 1 appears to be shown, but it could be that its just flashing too fast for me to see it. Sometimes messages 1-2-1 are shown, but this could again be because its flashing too fast.

EDIT:

Ooh! I just got halted playback and:

Undefined instruction
at 16ABE4FA

(Not in the style of the normal messages, it's tiny white text on top of the last thing shown on the screen)

I got a similar message once before on a different build, but at C0EDBABE. Not sure if it was the same "Undefined instruction".

... And while writing that...

Data abort
at 000371F0

I have a hunch this is unrelated, so sorry in advance for flooding the thread with unrelated information.

...and

Undefined instruction
at 00037D84

EDIT 2: the messages in that edit came during playback.

EDIT 3: "Data abort at 00000002". I think we get the idea that this is going to keep happening, but I thought maybe the memory addresses might mean something to you.

[aressto]

no problem at my ipod 60gb

and my new 80gb is  
still no solution from coders?

[GodEater]

It's hard to find a solution to something which hasn't happened to any of the developers. We don't know what causes it because it doesn't happen to us.

[aressto]

ouh man
any clues or how to report this bug propperly for developers to get it fixed! i love rockobx, cant live without it !  

[pondlife]

Best place for a bug report is Flyspray.  

But first, ensure you're running the latest, unpatched build (including bootloader) and have reset to all default settings.  

Then see if you can find a recipe that causes the freeze (e.g. playing a particular track, or skipping tracks quickly, or maybe a particular plugin).

(If it all seems stable with default settings, switch back to your preferred settings/WPS/theme etc and see if that makes a difference.)

pondlife