Ipod Video 80 GB Mount Problems

[dinkoarun]

I formatted my iPod 80gb Video using a mac with mtools and other stuff mentioned in the manual.

I installed bootloader version 1.1 and firmware build on may 30.

I am having trouble booting the iPod on my mac to transfer music. It takes about 1to2 minutes to recognize the iPod during the mounting. After it has been ejected the second time the iPod does not even goto Disk Mode properly. If I hold Select and Play and put it in emergency disc mode, it says OK to disconnect.

In order to be mounted again i have to restart the mac with the iPod connected in.

I don't know if its a Mac issue or an iPod firmware issue, but any help would be appreciated.

[linuxstb]

I've always experienced very slow (1-2 minute) mount times when attaching my ipod (a 60GB Color) to my Mac - it seems to be a "feature" of Mac OS X when accessing FAT32 formatted ipods.  I've never found a solution.

As for your other issues, I haven't experienced them - do you get the same issues if you only connect to your Mac when running the original Apple firmware on your ipod?

[knight4led]

I have experienced some of the slowing with a FAT32 iPod connected to a Mac. Lots of it has to do with the built in disk mode in my opinion which is far slower than the Apple firmware. I don't know why that is, but if you can, try connecting the iPod while it is booted in the original FW.

I had the mounting issue with a flash drive once and had to restart my machine with it connected. I think its a bug with the Mac recognizing certain drives that either have not been properly disconnected or that have some type of file corruption.

Third, I haven't been able to format my 80gb iPod in any way with my Mac that allowed Rockbox to work. Eventually I had to resort to searching out a windows machine with iTunes. Be aware that once you get it booting and connecting to your computer that you might not actually be able to run Rockbox.

[alteredbeast]

Nothing quite so serious on my WinXP SP2 box, but since installing the version 1.1 bootloader on my 80GB iPod, it is mounting as if it were a USB1 device (very slow file transfers). Strange. Has anyone else had this problem?

[psycho_maniac]

yes i have had the very slow mount time and the transfers seem slower then usb1.

[peteypiefrogworth]

This is very interesting - I also have been finding I've got very slow transfer times. I chalked it up to my computer being crap, but maybe that's it!

[knight4led]

many people notice slower transfer speeds in disk mode. It really has nothing to do with Rockbox since its Apple's disk mode, but like I said before, booting the original FW fixes any slow speed issues.

[peteypiefrogworth]

Thanks knight! OK, well my problem is that somehow when I first ran ipodpatcher I lost the original firmware - when I try and book into the Apple firmware I get the endless reboot cycle problem.

I'm fairly sure I can't just download the 80GB Apple firmware from somewhere(?), but I'm scared: if I let iTunes "repair" my iPod, will it definitely leave the hard drive alone, other than the iPod_Control folder?
i.e. Can I open iTunes, get it to do the repair, make sure I now have the original firmware, and then run ipodpatcher.exe to install the Rockbox bootloader, without losing everything that I've put onto the iPod?

[knight4led]

No, the iPod restore in iTunes formats your iPod and brings it back to factory settings as if it were the first time it was plugged in. You could try to get your hands on another 80gig and use ipodpatcher to extract the firmware partition, then use ipodpatcher to write that to yours.

I believe the firmware partition should be the same for all iPods, HFS+ or FAT32, so maybe one of us here could do that for you. I would try it, but I don't have my iPod with me.

From the IpodPatcher wiki:
 --read-firmware (-rf) filename.ipod

Read the main firmware image (excluding any bootloader) and store it in the filename.ipod file.

Rockbox users can use this command to extract the main Apple firmware to a file. When instructed to load the Apple firmare (via the hold switch or MENU button), the Rockbox bootloader looks for such a file (with the name apple_os.ipod) in the root of your FAT32 partition, and will load that firmware in preference to any firmware in the OSOS image.

--write-firmware (-wf) filename.ipod

This command can be used to completely replace the Apple firmware in the OSOS image with either the Rockbox bootloader or the main rockbox.ipod file.

[peteypiefrogworth]

Thanks again knight!
In that case, I'm thinking all I need is an appropriate apple_os.ipod file from an 80GB iPod...

If someone happens to have one that works, I'd be most appreciative if they could provide it for me! I *ought* to have it somewhere, but... seems not :/ I think I was juggling a few different things when I did my original patches (before the 80GB port was officially launched) and lost track.

[GodEater]

Thanks again knight!
In that case, I'm thinking all I need is an appropriate apple_os.ipod file from an 80GB iPod...

If someone happens to have one that works, I'd be most appreciative if they could provide it for me! I *ought* to have it somewhere, but... seems not :/ I think I was juggling a few different things when I did my original patches (before the 80GB port was officially launched) and lost track.

A URL to get the Apple firmware from has been posted in this forum countless times - have a look for it - particularly search for posts which contain ".ipsw".

[knight4led]

just to be polite I'd start at This Thread

[peteypiefrogworth]

OK. Thanks for that, sorry for using the damn search function GodEater.
I downloaded the firmware, repatched, plugged in to the power, and now I have a dual-booting iPod!

And I can confirm that if one's booted into the Apple firmware and connects that way, the transfer speeds are MUCH faster! Weird, but awesome that I don't have to submit to the slow.