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What is the most powerful supported player for ROCKBOX?
Walrus:
--- Quote from: Llorean on May 30, 2007, 08:45:14 PM ---Seriously, when the Gigabeat was being sold, 80gb drives didn't exist yet. Try to apply a little logic.
The iPods and the Gigabeats actually use the exact same brand of drives, with and in many cases, identical drives. You can upgrade a 60gb Gigabeat (or a lesser one) to 80gb without a problem. Saying they use "wimpy-ass" drives suggests a pretty solid lack of research.
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I shouldn't have to upgrade it myself though. I upgraded my old Nomad Zen, but I mean...I should be able to walk into a store or go on PriceGrabber and buy an 80 gig or 100 gig player right out of the box. (and isn't the Gigabeat still sold, just in a newer model that only is sold with a 30 gig drive?)
My frustration is more with the general idea that companies are trying to compete with Apple on a grand scale by offering players with largely insignificant features and in 5 different colors, rather than trying to compete on the audiophile end with larger hard drives and more compatibility. (obviously Rockbox fixes compatibility issues but it'd be nice if mp3 players did that on their own)
All I'm wanting to see is the portable audio player equivalent of companies like Linn, Grado or Sennheiser who make specialized audio products for the people picky and demanding enough to seek them out, instead of the people who happen to wander into a Best Buy.
Not trying to argue, just saying I think there's a small but significant market out there that no one is even bothering to cater to with regards to portable audio.
saratoga:
--- Quote from: Walrus on May 31, 2007, 01:50:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: Llorean on May 30, 2007, 08:45:14 PM ---Seriously, when the Gigabeat was being sold, 80gb drives didn't exist yet. Try to apply a little logic.
The iPods and the Gigabeats actually use the exact same brand of drives, with and in many cases, identical drives. You can upgrade a 60gb Gigabeat (or a lesser one) to 80gb without a problem. Saying they use "wimpy-ass" drives suggests a pretty solid lack of research.
--- End quote ---
I shouldn't have to upgrade it myself though. I upgraded my old Nomad Zen, but I mean...I should be able to walk into a store or go on PriceGrabber and buy an 80 gig or 100 gig player right out of the box. (and isn't the Gigabeat still sold, just in a newer model that only is sold with a 30 gig drive?)
My frustration is more with the general idea that companies are trying to compete with Apple on a grand scale by offering players with largely insignificant features and in 5 different colors, rather than trying to compete on the audiophile end with larger hard drives and more compatibility. (obviously Rockbox fixes compatibility issues but it'd be nice if mp3 players did that on their own)
All I'm wanting to see is the portable audio player equivalent of companies like Linn, Grado or Sennheiser who make specialized audio products for the people picky and demanding enough to seek them out, instead of the people who happen to wander into a Best Buy.
Not trying to argue, just saying I think there's a small but significant market out there that no one is even bothering to cater to with regards to portable audio.
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Theres very little demand for large hard drive players, which is why almost no one has gone beyond 60GB. Even Apple mostly sells players with < 10GB, so its not surprising that theres hardly anyone selling very large disks.
Walrus:
There's also little demand for high-end headphones or speakers, but there's still companies that make them.
It's just the idea of "we could make an mp3 player that's not particularly different than the ipod, and get crushed in the marketplace by Apple's mediocre product but excellent advertising, or make a smaller-scale product geared towards picky buyers unsatisfied with the current offerings and market them online."
I guess I'm just not impressed with any of the offerings companies keep making to compete with the ipod...they're not all bad, but none are the kind of impressive leap up from the iPod that I keep hoping for.
Besides, no one will realize they need a 100 or 120 gig player until they realize they can get one. ;)
saratoga:
--- Quote from: Walrus on May 31, 2007, 04:17:51 PM ---There's also little demand for high-end headphones or speakers, but there's still companies that make them.
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Thats not true, and even if it were, headphones and speakers are not DAPs, so this doesn't even make sense.
--- Quote from: Walrus on May 31, 2007, 04:17:51 PM ---It's just the idea of "we could make an mp3 player that's not particularly different than the ipod, and get crushed in the marketplace by Apple's mediocre product but excellent advertising, or make a smaller-scale product geared towards picky buyers unsatisfied with the current offerings and market them online."
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So your idea to differentiate a product from Apple's is to offer the same hard disk sizes apple sells?
Christine Tham:
--- Quote from: Walrus on May 31, 2007, 01:50:00 PM ---I should be able to walk into a store or go on PriceGrabber and buy an 80 gig or 100 gig player right out of the box. Â (and isn't the Gigabeat still sold, just in a newer model that only is sold with a 30 gig drive?)
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You can get 60GB Gigabeat S.
For what it's worth, Toshiba have announced an 80GB Gigabeat V - only in Japan at this stage though.
I agree with your sentiment about large capacity MP3 players though. I need about 100GB just to store my CD collection in compressed form, and probably about 500GB-1TB for lossless compression of all music (including my own recordings).
So for me, 80GB isn't that much better than 60GB - neither will handle my entire collection. I will be interested if someone releases a 120GB player - that would allow me to store my entire collection lossy, plus a few selected albums lossless.
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