iPOD 5th generation - Key-lock

[osiris]

First off, installed rockbox yesterday and all I can say is wow.. I was so disapointed when I moved to ipod (from creative zen) because I wanted larger storage space. The sound wasnt good, and the volume could never really be high enough and some .mp3's sounded really bad on the ipod (and there only..). But with rockbox all that changed, sound is nice, and with a little theme added it even looks better then the original ipod firmware..

Now, only 1 problem I noticed on the bus this morning. I pressed play at home, and when I arrived in town 30mins later, it was impossible to skip songs, change the volume, or use any buttons at all. I noticed that the icon that indicates that the ipod is locked was showing, and it didnt change no matter how much I tried to slide the lock button. Is this a bug, or is there an internal key-lock function in rockbox I havent noticed yet?

[GodEater]

Did you turn on "Party mode" by accident ?

[linuxstb]

When your ipod is working normally (i.e. not frozen), does the lock icon appear and disappear?

Also, do you have a similar problem when using the Apple firmware?

[osiris]

Yes, when I turn on the ipod I can slide the lock button back and forth and the icon changes also. In the frozen state the song continues to play, only option is to reboot it and choose "resume playback". Then it resumes from an earlier point, not from when i rebooted it (resume from where this issues started?).

and no, havent seen any "partymode" so dont think thats turned on by accident.

[Raineer]

It can happen to me when I either plug or unplug from a computer connection.  When you leave for the bus are you disconnecting from a PC?  I've noticed my iPod will continue to play (fat, dumb and happy) but I can't press any buttons besides to reboot.

To solve it I always have my rockbox on and not playing (at main menu) when I attach to USB, that keeps it from hanging. Then a safe eject will keep it from hanging on disconnect.

[Dwyloc]

@Osiris

Do you have an 80GB ipod video by any chance as I have been seeing similar problems with mine under rockbox.

I have never had any problems under the retail OS with my player but under rockbox sometimes the UI locks up for a while.  

Music will continue playing and using the click wheel results in the back light coming on then going back off after a few seconds as normal, but other than that pressing buttons has no effect and the WPS stops updating the clock and other information.  After a few minuets the display will start updating again rockbox will start responding to key presses again.

As I always boot into the retail OS before connecting the USB cable I don't think the problem is USB related.

[Dwyloc]

Well it looks like some of my GU lockups maybe related to the 80GB iPods very slow disk access combined with updating the database in background, while trying to interact with my player.

This may also explain why I never see the same problem with my iPod nano running rockbox or on my 80GB Ipod video under the retail OS.  

Audio also stops at the same time as the UI locks up if I try to skip back to a previous track in the play list while the database is updating in background, It I try to skip backwards before the player finishes buffering the music.

[raab]

I'm also experiencing lockups in the now playing screen regardless of whether or not I have the keylock off. I can replicate this all the time, regardless of what song is playing the ui will lockup round the 3rd or 4th song. The music will continue playing and key presses bring the backlight on but can't do anything so have to reboot. I'm not running any themes and running r13548-070603

[raab]

I'm wondering if it's something to do with default rockbox theme as I installed the dark geek theme, modified it a little to suit, and my 80g hasn't locked up once with and without the keylock on. So that may make it easier to narrow down the issue, who knows.

[GodEater]

I think it might be useful for people to mention what EQ settings, or other DSP effects (e.g. ReplayGain, Crossfeed etc.) they have turned on too.

The *only* DSP effect I bother using is Crossfeed, and I've not had my iPod lock up on me once - no matter what theme I've been using.

[DefineByte]

I use ReplayGain and crossfeed. I've had it lock up on my 5G 30GB using my own custom text-only theme.

[Dwyloc]

I think it might be useful for people to mention what EQ settings, or other DSP effects (e.g. ReplayGain, Crossfeed etc.) they have turned on too.

The *only* DSP effect I bother using is Crossfeed, and I've not had my iPod lock up on me once - no matter what theme I've been using.

I don't use the EQ, crossfeed or crossfade and I also turn off "fade on Stop/pause" I also don't use the hold key so I don't think its related to the hold key.

I have experienced the lockups with the following WPS: Bloodstained, DOS Blue and the default Rockbox WPS.

[GodEater]

I have experienced the lockups with the following WPS: Bloodstained, DOS Blue and the default Rockbox WPS.

How often do you update your rockbox install ?

[Dwyloc]

I have experienced the lockups with the following WPS: Bloodstained, DOS Blue and the default Rockbox WPS.

How often do you update your rockbox install ?

Most days I am currently running the SVN version from 10 Jun 10:41, but I am just about to update to the current version again.

It seems to happen quite often when I update the database in background after adding/or removing some files, so it maybe related to disk access.  I currently have about 40GB's of music and audio books on my 80GB iPod so thats quite a lot of files to read when updating the database.

[wesderby]

I am having this same problem with a 30GB iPod Video, and have since I started using Rockbox back in February.  The only things I'm running are "Replay Gain", and I'm running the "Rock" preset on my EQ, though I swear the Key locking happened more when I ran the "Default" EQ setting and no DSP/Effect options.  I'm running the SVN from June 10, but can't remember what time.

I've been hesitant to change the theme as I'm not sure if that would impact speech support, which I need.

It also doesn't matter for me what size/type of file I use...It happens when my wife and I are listening to audio books in the car, for which I've taken all the tracks for each chapter and combined them into one...For instance, if chapter 2 is ten files, I've made it one...It also happens when I listen to music, usually within a few seconds of me starting whatever song I want to play. I'm thinking I may disable the Replay Gain because I noticed when I was running the "Rock" preset, without the Replay gain, it didn't happen as often, though still periodically...And as I mentioned on another thread, it ALWAYS happens if I have the Rockbox EQ set to Default (which appears to be off).

As it's completely inaccessible to a blind user, I don't know if this would happen on my player with the Apple firmware being run instead of Rockbox.