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Rejection of "ignore the" patch (split from the Evil_G unsupported build thread)
lalittle:
--- Quote from: Llorean on June 12, 2007, 08:54:35 PM ---Scroll wheel acceleration is not a plugin. Plugins are anything you seen in "browse plugins" or any viewers. Basically, files with the extension .rock. They do NOT show up in the main menus, with one exception (the credits plugin).
You seem to have confused it with the term "patch".
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Ah -- you're correct. I was thinking of "plugins" and "patches" synonymously. That said, a plugin would still reside on the Rockbox itself, and allow users to completely achieve article free sorting without needing anything else other than the actual Rockboxed unit.
--- Quote ---And I don't believe Rockbox should ever be forced to restrict or limit itself for fear of offending other programs that don't adhere to standards. "Fear of incompatibility" is silly, if that incompatibility is with a program that doesn't support a standard it purports to.
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It's not Rockbox I'd be worried about. My concern would be potential complatibility issues between the other program used for editing these tags, and the user's audio management program of choice. Again, these issues are 100% eliminated if the Rockbox itself took care of this task.
Larry
Llorean:
If the user's audio management program supported the tagging specification properly, then where would the problem be exactly?
Not to mention, you don't have to run the program against your PC-side files. Just point it at the files on the device, click "go", and X minutes later the files on your device have their new, 100% legal according to specifications, tags. And much, much faster than it would take the device itself to update these tags by way of a plugin.
soap:
--- Quote from: lalittle on June 12, 2007, 09:04:30 PM ---It's not Rockbox I'd be worried about. My concern would be potential complatibility issues between the other program used for editing these tags, and the user's audio management program of choice. Again, these issues are 100% eliminated if the Rockbox itself took care of this task.
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No, these issues are not eliminated if Rockbox itself took care of said task.
A pluggin (in said example) is "the other program".
There would be no difference in the files be it a PC app or a Rockbox app (pluggin) that does the tagging. The "risk" is exactly the same.
--- Quote ---Editing these tags outside of Rockbox requires a program that can see and edit these tags, and it requires a script made specifically to do this.
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Editing these tags inside of Rockbox requires a program (the plugin) that can see and edit these tags, and it requires a script something made specifically to do this.
lalittle:
--- Quote from: soap on June 12, 2007, 09:37:14 PM ---No, these issues are not eliminated if Rockbox itself took care of said task.
A pluggin (in said example) is "the other program".
There would be no difference in the files be it a PC app or a Rockbox app (pluggin) that does the tagging. Â The "risk" is exactly the same.
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We're still not on the same page here. The issues that I'm referring to are eliminated if the Rockbox takes care of this duty because the original files on the PC are untouched by the process. Only the files already on the Rockbox are re-written, while the origian copies of these files on the computer remain exactly the same, completely "unaware" of the sort tags since these tags were not added until after the files were synced to the handheld.
--- Quote ---Editing these tags inside of Rockbox requires a program (the plugin) that can see and edit these tags, and it requires a script something made specifically to do this.
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Yes, but the distinction is that it happens within the Rockboxed unit. No other external applications are necessary. In other words, everything the Rockbox needs to achieve article-free sorting would be on the Rockbox itself. No third party programs would need to be installed, configured, and utilized. I'm simply advocating the idea that offering this "full service" capability on the Rockbox itself is an attractive feature to users like myself, and I believe that this would make the sorting feature more widely accessible.
Larry
GodEater:
--- Quote from: lalittle on June 13, 2007, 01:59:34 AM ---We're still not on the same page here. The issues that I'm referring to are eliminated if the Rockbox takes care of this duty because the original files on the PC are untouched by the process. Only the files already on the Rockbox are re-written, while the origian copies of these files on the computer remain exactly the same, completely "unaware" of the sort tags since these tags were not added until after the files were synced to the handheld.
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Again, you're not getting it. If you plug your rockbox DAP into your PC - it becomes a drive letter. You point your tagging app at it, say tag these files here please. At no point then are your "original" files touched during the tagging process. At the end of the process, you unplug your DAP. You can even un-install the tagging app used. Your original files are still virgin, untouched on your PC's hard disk.
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