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Rejection of "ignore the" patch (split from the Evil_G unsupported build thread)
bascule:
How does this patch deal with different languages?
I remember on my Rio Karma that artists/albums beginning with 'Die' (to be killed) were mis-sorted because it was treated as the German for 'The' :-\
Can it be made to be dependent on the selected language?
safetydan:
I decided to take a crack at supporting the sorting tags. You can see a very early version of the patch here http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7287
seani:
I'd  just like to +1 for sorting based on a separate, standards based, used-editable tag(s):
1) As stated a number of times, maintenance of tags is the users responsibility. There are swathes of free apps. that will let you edit tags, and a number that will let you copy a tag from one field to another. This would make it a relatively painless process to "correct" currently tagged files and keep on top of newly tagged files. From memory, TGF may have some support for stripping/transforming tags as they are copied in any case.
2) "Special" processing to press a single value into service in different contexts *always* causes problems, both from the messiness of the implementation, and the resultant functionality. This is a problem I've encountered time and time again in my own systems when a single description has to suit the needs of telesales, online sales, first and second line support, accounts etc. Each faction has it's own requirements in terms of formatting/sorting.
The sensible option is to have a separate related attribute (ID3 tag in this case), and have each interested party maintain the attributes in the way they see fit. This generally leads to resistance (as it's a maintenance "overhead" despite being "essential") and dissatisfaction with any method that tries to do this automatically by parsing the single value actually held (there are always ambiguities and odd cases). An unhappy compromise.
I don't always have the clout to insist this approach is followed, paying customers and all, but Rockbox has no such restrictions...
alienbiker99:
i dont want to in anyway steal norbusan's work and the others of the patch so ill link to where he hosts the patch file. http://www.logic.at/people/preining/iriver/patches.full/ i guess you can test it out on how it sorts die.
lalittle:
--- Quote from: bascule on June 11, 2007, 03:21:38 AM ---Can it be made to be dependent on the selected language?
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That's an excellent point. The patch should incorporate the ability to determine the language being used, and only ignore the articles in that language.
Thanks for specifically pointing that out.
Larry
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