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Offline mincho

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Include bootloader in new builds?
« on: May 15, 2007, 12:03:35 AM »
Why isn't the bootloader included in new builds?  I have an H10 20gb.  I haven't updated in a few months, and I had to stumble through the forums to find out there was a new bootloader, and then to the manual to find out where to get it.  This should be easier to find, i think it would be good to include with the distrobution of rockbox you download for your player in the .rockbox folder, since just making a link in the zip to where it should be could overwrite the original firmware, and thats probly something most people dont want!
Failing that, a current bootloader for the device on the downloads page would be a good second! I know it probably doesn't change much between builds, but it would make it that more user friendly for everyone.
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Offline bluebrother

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Re: Include bootloader in new builds?
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2007, 02:47:16 AM »
Rockbox hasn't been released for any other players than the archos ones yet. If you use unreleased software you need to be aware that there might be some inconvenient steps.

Besides, putting the bootloader in the automated builds doesn't make sense. The bootloader rarely changes. They are released on the download server to make sure you won't get a broken bootloader, which could much more easily happen for the regular downloads. While the h10 isn't one there are players where a broken bootloader can seriously damage your player. For the same reason (changes) the fonts were put into a separate package. We have excellent documentation how to get the bootloader (the manual), how to install it (the manual) and much more (the wiki, forums).
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Offline darkdoomer

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Re: Include bootloader in new builds?
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2007, 03:19:26 PM »
AT LEAST you could bring a better way to bring us the latest .MI4's !
i'm still looking for one to make work again my H10 20gigas.
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Re: Include bootloader in new builds?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2007, 03:43:52 PM »
Quote from: darkdoomer on May 28, 2007, 03:19:26 PM
AT LEAST you could bring a better way to bring us the latest .MI4's !
i'm still looking for one to make work again my H10 20gigas.
errr, what better way? Better than what?

The latest bootloader is released on the download server (and linked from the manual), and that bootloader is known to work with current builds. I really don't understand your problem -- if you follow the installation instructions from the manual and use the latest release it will work.
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Offline Domonoky

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Re: Include bootloader in new builds?
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2007, 05:31:51 PM »

And there is an easy way to get the bootloader and the newest build, use rbutil (its in the wiki) it can install nearly all you need for rockbox with a nice gui :-)
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Re: Include bootloader in new builds?
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2007, 11:24:14 AM »
 ;D sorry, must 've lurked more. but i was more thinking about making the frontpage/downloads page more "open" or with a system that makes you find the thing you need directly in a pair of clicks.

must stop the drama coz' it's so good. *goes back playing rockdoom*

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Offline mincho

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Re: Include bootloader in new builds?
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2007, 11:35:29 PM »
I do realize its still in development, im just trying to make some helpful suggestions.  

I did try the rbutil program and it worked great for me!  I have to reformat the h10 every so often since the hard drive on mine isnt the greatest and it messes up (with or without rockbox) and the rbutil is definatly the way to go.
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