thanks for the input, the idea about expanding/contracting the circles might be nice, I'll try it out. I might end up having to do away with the numerical values though, or place them in right against the corner of the screen, which bugs me. I thought of making the progress bar complete the circle, but the way the progress bar is set up, it might require an image that would overwrite the last two lines of the WPS which is where I want the animations.