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Voice file size (on Ondio) matters?
x-oph:
After using version 2.5 for some time I've tried the daily builds. Everything's working fine accept that the voice files I've chosen first didn't give a beep.
I've tried most of the other files and it seems to me that only the three smallest of them are working (tough all of them are very fast playing).
Is this a known voice file size problem? Or is my Ondio SP defect?
Or am I handling the files wrong? (I always renamed them to english.voice - except for the German one witch was renamed to deutsch.voice - and put them to .rockbox\langs
I didn't have any problems with the voice files in the release version...
Here all the files I've tried
Voice file's date
Voice file's
Name of the downloadedarchive
Result
07.03.2007 06:42 1.096.924 english_Reed.zip (Works but it's way to fast)
29.08.2006 09:47 1.078.408 english_Reed_fast_cvs.zip (Works but not with all menu items and it's still faster then english_Reed.zip)
07.03.2007 06:49 1.203.628 english_Synthetic_Dave_UK_English.zip (Works, but it's to fast)
07.03.2007 06:32 1.974.366 english_VW_Kate doesn't work (tested on 2007-04-26 and 2007-05-04 daily builds)
07.03.2007 06:35 1.879.310 english_VW_Paul doesn't work (tested on 2007-04-26 and 2007-05-04 daily builds)
06.04.2007 15:07 1.770.768 american-english_ibmtts_20070406.zip doesn't work (tested on 2007-04-26 and 2007-05-04 daily builds)
08.04.2007 17:18 1.696.608 british-english_ibmtts_20070406.zip doesn't work (tested on 2007-05-04 daily build)
03.06.2006 13:51 1.431.488 deutsch-lh-stefan-20060602.zip doesn't work (tested on 2007-05-04 daily build)
07.03.2007 06:31 1.321.054 english_Cepstral_David.zip doesn't work (tested on 2007-05-04 daily build)
07.03.2007 06:34 1.579.288 english_Cepstral_Lawrence.zip doesn't work (tested on 2007-05-04 daily build)
07.03.2007 06:44 1.453.864 english_Simon.zip english.voice doesn't work (tested on 2007-05-04 daily build)
JdGordon:
yes, on all archos targets there is a limit (1.5mb I think) for the voice file
nls:
The voice file must fit in the audio buffer, this buffer uses all the otherwise unused memory and I think it's about 1.2 megs on archoses, it also depends a little on settings like max files in dir and max entries in playlist, try to keep these as low as possible.
(Settings -> General Settings -> System -> Limits)
To see the available buffer, go to System -> Rockbox Info from the main menu.
pixelma:
The basic problem has already been addressed: the voice files are now too large. That's because the size of the firmware had grown since the release version (new features). Both - the firmware and the voice file have to fit in the 2MB of RAM the Archoses have.*
--- Quote from: nls on May 06, 2007, 03:58:36 AM ---...and I think it's about 1.2 megs on archoses
--- End quote ---
It varies a lot and it's not a hard limit - on your OndioSP it should be more than this. My backlight modded OndioFM has about 1.3 MB of available buffer even though the FM and backlight related code adds a lot to the firmware size - compared to the SP.
--- Quote from: nls on May 06, 2007, 03:58:36 AM ---it also depends a little on settings like max files in dir and max entries in playlist, try to keep these as low as possible.
--- End quote ---
Yes, you can influence it a bit with settings. Other than the already mentioned ones, there are for example the scrobbler log (which doesn't even work correctly) and cuesheet support that take away a lot of available buffer size too, in case you activate(d) them.
*) This is not true when you run rockbox from ROM (if you use the so called rombox) - the OndioSP is one of two targets where this is still possible with the recent versions. (Excuse me if I'm wrong in assuming that you don't).
x-oph:
Thank you guys for your answers and advices.
I've played somewhat with the limits with following results:
buffer: 1.252 MB (default limits)
buffer: 1.356 MB (limits: 200 files; playlist 1000)
buffer: 1.369 MB (limits: 50 files; playlist 1000)
At the end of the day I was able to use some of the bigger voice files which are much better to understand :)
The rombox option seems to be very promising. Sounds to me that it could free some 100k of the buffer. I have to take a closer look at this.
I didn't activate the 'scrobbler log' nor the 'cuesheet support' so there's no buffer saving potential available but thanks for the cue.
This 'backlight mod' for the ondio you've mentioned sounds very interesting to me. I have to search if it's documented somewhere.
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