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scorche:
First, the edit button is handy...use it please  ;)

Secondly, many people are waiting on this because there are many other decisions to make regarding WPSs and it would be easier to make one big round-up effort rather than a few.  Also, apparently people are waiting till WPSs in general and a few issues about them are going to be discussed and decided upon at DevCon-West.

Also, saving a copy of the original isn't needed, as the wiki uses a revision system and keeps track of all past revisions.

Yotto:
I appreciate the effort, and like the direction you're going, but the page itself is way too unwieldy as-is.  There is no way to make it ... weildy? ... with the number of themes available.  I think it should be split up, perhaps by author.

Also, I authored Lights, White Lights, and Car. :)

lights0ut:
Thanks for the feedback Yotto, I'll make the changes you requested.

Edit: Done, hope I got your name right ;)

 I know the gallery is huge, I'm trying to make things better by organizing it, there is no way I can trim it. But if I put things on separate pages, I'm not sure how intuitive that would be. I *think* I could pull it off, on each page I'd just have to add the wiki tag to include the main gallery so that the links work (someone tell me if I'm right about that).

You'll notice that on the first few author's galleries there are little arrows on the right hand side, these link to the top, so say you're done looking through said author's gallery, and now you want to look at Senabs, its much easier to go back to the top, and look through the more organized TOC for him under
the Authors Galleries section. Plus I've made the Quick links section, which should help if you just want to browse each section. Also the Make your own should provide people with an avenue to the appropriate tutorial pages, without always asking on the forums. I added the improtant stuff section to help people out with fonts and a way to read the guidelines and the soon to be implemented (I hope) Soap Seal of Approval. I may make this a separate page because I want to add some notes about installation, but that may not be a good idea because it may be best just to keep it where everyone can see it.

ryran:
I'd like to .. uhh... re-open this whole thing for discussion. Or at least start a dialogue with you, Gary, since you kinda took this on as a pet project.

So. I really don't like the way the WPS page is organized now.
Specifically I'm very opposed to the implemented "galleries" system. I think separating between an "author gallery" and "unknown/single submission" is not a good idea--I believe the WPSes should speak for themselves and be organized irrespective of their creator. I also think it only adds an unnecessary level of complexity to have an "imitations/look-alikes" gallery.

As for the remix gallery: the 5g WPS page is already prohibitively large--making it longer by having duplicates is craziness. Seriously, it doesn't make practical sense to have any WPS in more than one place on the same page..it's horrible for editing and upkeep and it just makes things confusing for users. I think "remixes" should be kept adjacent to the original WPS they're based on at all times.

Hmm. I guess that's all I've got for now. Damn it's late.
Since I see this could potentially be taken as more than just constructive criticism, I just want to end this by saying that you have my recognition and admiration--for seeing a problem and taking the initiative to work on improving it. Nothing but respect for you man. :)

lights0ut:
Thanks for voicing your opinion on this, that is what the thread is for, and I do encourage people to comment on this. (no offense taken at all, btw) The wiki is for the rockbox community, and if the community is not happy with how the wiki is looking, it should be changed to something more useful.

Ryan, I understand your points about the how the gallery would be much less complex if it were A to Z, what I was trying to do was to distinguish the gallery from Rockbox-themes.org because the themes site is organized A to Z. That is not to say that I dislike rockbox-themes, I like it a lot, but I wanted to do something with the wiki.

However, I agree with your point about the fact that it is now more complex to maintain the wiki with the different sections. This is a major point, and enough for me to rethink how the wiki is organized, I have an archived version of the wiki's state before I started, so I could revert it back, and add in the changes since then.

But I don't think that would be proper, what I'm trying to do is improve the wiki because I think there is a general feeling that it needs to be cleaned up. Should it just be organized A to Z? or is there a better way?

I had the idea earlier to make two different WPS galleries:
1. A straightforward A to Z format
2. Separate pages for each of the "galleries"

What do people think of this idea? Would it make things better, worse, or is it not worth the effort?

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