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Cowon D2
saratoga:
--- Quote from: robbie on December 14, 2009, 09:14:15 PM ---current build is broken now (get an error when opening the file with winrar).
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Works fine for me. Probably just a problem on your end (or its been resolved since whichever unnamed version you tested).
tomers:
--- Quote from: robbie on December 14, 2009, 09:14:15 PM ---current build is broken now (get an error when opening the file with winrar).
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Do you mean it fully compiles, but the archive created (make zip?) is invalid?
tomers:
The Cowon D2 manual is released! ;D
There are some sections which still need some work. Some keymap for plugins, and a description of the player for blind users, etc.
I will fix the keymap issues, but please, could somebody write a short description of the player's structure (buttons, etc.) for a blind person. I know this target is not suitable for blind and visually impaired persons, but still, manuals usually include this section.
In the wiki, there's the following section:
--- Quote ---Most Rockbox functions are usable on the D2/D2+, including music playback and most plugins, but there are a number of shortcomings that prevent it from being a fully supported target:
* An SD card is required to use many features, since the internal flash memory is read-only in Rockbox.
* There is only basic touchscreen support.
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I would like to know why the touchscreen support is considered basic, and where exactly are the areas which lack proper touchscreen support, so I can fix it.
Regarding the read-only internal flash - does anyone works on it?
shotofadds:
Thanks for your work on the manual so far!
--- Quote from: tomers on December 15, 2009, 12:45:28 AM ---I would like to know why the touchscreen support is considered basic, and where exactly are the areas which lack proper touchscreen support, so I can fix it.
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"basic touchscreen support" == the far-from-ideal 3x3 grid mode. Originally this was only intended to be a stop-gap measure until Rockbox could support touchscreens in a more natural stylus/finger point mode. There is a wiki page about what needs to be done: TouchscreenInterface.
The user can switch between "3x3 Grid" mode (the default) and "Absolute Point" mode. I strongly disagree with 3x3 Grid mode deing the default (it's not an intuitive way to use a touch screen at all) but many, many things need to be fixed before Absolute Point can be made the default:
- some screens (and most plugins) automatically switch to 3x3 Grid Mode without alerting the user
- some screens cannot be used at all in Absolute Point mode
- the default WPS doesn't have any touch areas
- the default theme font is too small to be used comfortably in the menus
There is some work going on towards adapting the various screens to Absolute Point mode (eg. FS#10639, FS#10806) but this is complicated by having to support both 3x3 Grid and Absolute Point modes. I'd rather get rid of grid mode completely, but some devs/users want to keep the choice of both. :-\
I also started a patch (FS#10804) which adds a "touchscreen mode" icon to the status bar, which is really handy for when screens switch mode without alerting the user in any other way.
I tried to get some discussion going on these issues on the dev mailing list a while back, but it seems very few devs are interested in working on this area. So my enthusiasm is somewhat lacking these days.
ps. further discussion of touchscreen work should go in the User Interface and Voice forum as it's not D2 specific.
--- Quote ---Regarding the read-only internal flash - does anyone works on it?
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No, no-one's working on it now. I've spent months looking into this, and in my opinion providing write support (compatible with the Cowon firmware) would require a collossal amount of further effort, and we would almost certainly fall foul of some FTL-related patents.
The current situation of booting from an SD card works perfectly well for me, and from the lack of complaints, it seems the majority of users don't mind either. The only difficulty I am aware of is that RbUtil doesn't know about the need to unzip .rockbox to the SD card.
tomers:
Thanks for the info. I agree with you regarding the touchscreen being immature. I hope that making D2 a stable platform will drive further development in the touchscreen area.
BTW it should be a lot easier now to create a manual to all other touchscreen platforms, too.
--- Quote from: shotofadds on December 15, 2009, 04:27:40 PM ---
--- Quote ---Regarding the read-only internal flash - does anyone works on it?
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No, no-one's working on it now. I've spent months looking into this, and in my opinion providing write support (compatible with the Cowon firmware) would require a collossal amount of further effort, and we would almost certainly fall foul of some FTL-related patents.
The current situation of booting from an SD card works perfectly well for me, and from the lack of complaints, it seems the majority of users don't mind either. The only difficulty I am aware of is that RbUtil doesn't know about the need to unzip .rockbox to the SD card.
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Then if we make RbUtil automatically detect and choose the SD card as the installation point (if no card inserted it would prompt the user), then can we declare the D2 as a stable target? The touchscreen is ugly and unintuitive to work with at the moment, but it does work and provide full functionality. I really like to see this platform getting stabilized :-)
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