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A beginner's overview to applying a patch (just because people have been asking)

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LinusN:
What is it with people and forums nowadays? What on earth is wrong with using the "documentation" section on rockbox.org for documentation (i.e the Wiki)?

Mikerman:
Again, my original intent simply had been to assist the new poster who asked, "How do I patch?," by telling him that it's not as simple as "running" a patch and by directing him to where to go/look, but that thread had been locked down, apparently.  Hence, my separate thread.  And then I got a bit carried away with trying to be helpful (and by rounding out the various instruction sets some).

Llorean:
If those five percent don't look in the wiki they need to read the forum rules. Documentation belongs in the wiki. I will not make an exception on the grounds that people ignore the rules. No sticky for this or any tutorial. The only people it helps are those who cannot be bothered to follow the rules. Can you explain to me why I should help people who click that they agree to our rules and them choose to ignore them?

LinusN:

--- Quote from: Mikerman on April 25, 2007, 11:23:58 AM ---Again, my original intent simply had been to assist the new poster who asked, "How do I patch?," by telling him that it's not as simple as "running" a patch and by directing him to where to go/look, but that thread had been locked down, apparently.  Hence, my separate thread.  And then I got a bit carried away with trying to be helpful (and by rounding out the various instruction sets some).

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Mikerman,

Please do understand that I appreciate your effort to document this for the n00bs. I was not referring to your specific post, but it was more a cry of general frustration over the ever growing (ab)use of stickies in forums (not just Rockbox) for documentation.

Mikerman:
Thanks, Linus.  And Llorean, I absolutely don't have any issue with this thread not being "sticky-fied"--that never was my goal/request (and this thread actually has become something that it certainly, umm, never was intended to be ...).  

As to people not doing what they're supposed to (search for answers and read the documentation), well, I guess that proves that people just do at times what they do  ;) ; personally, I think that always has to be taken into account (and why I was at work until 10:30 at night last night with a client).  Also that it just is harder, at times, to find things, especially when one is new, I think.  (Personally, I find searching here somewhat harder than at some other boards; maybe it's the nature of discussion here.)  Not condoning any of this, but saying what seems to be the case--I see it at other boards as well, with people posting a question at a forum rather than looking for an answer (sometimes only needing to do so for a minute to find one).  Sometimes I'll respond with, Read the manual; sometimes with nothing; and sometimes with an explanation, as I tried here.  And at times, for me at least, redundancy can be good, as it increases the chances of a hit when doing a search, or of multiple hits and understanding the answer or different solutions.  

At times, with all due respect, I think some people forget that they are so far above many of us in tech. matters that they don't recognize that the shorthand that is used to explain matters leaves some of us scratching our heads.  (Many of us try to hide that ...)  The forums can be helpful in that regard.

I dunno.  Maybe a "New user" discussion forum for questions would be helpful, so that the general boards are free from "clutter."  Although there could be a fear by new people that no one who knows answers would look there; and it segments things more.  Personally, I'll take help wherever I can find it.

edit:  And I just learned something:  when I originally tried to post this message, got the warning, "You can add 1 smilies per post. Remove some smileys and try again."  

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