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ONGOING DEFAULT THEME CONTEST!!!

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DancemasterGlenn:
I posted earlier regarding changing the name of the thread to something like "cabbiev2 thread". I figured (perhaps incorrectly) that the contest was over, since cabbie was one of the few actual entries, and also because it is now the default (which to me signified the contest's end). If anyone browses this forum even semi-regularly, they're going to know this thread, and also know that cabbie has become the default. Who wouldn't just assume that the contest is over because of this, and therefore not bother to submit a theme to challenge it? That was my reasoning. By that logic, the only people who are going to post their own ideas for a default theme in this thread would be people who have not only never been on the forum before, they would have not bothered to read the 55 pages where cabbie was created, and merged in as the default.

I still think that the thread title should be changed. This should be a place where people talk about the weaknesses in the wps (I love this theme and have pretty much no problem with it at this point), and fix them. If you want people to keep making new candidates for a default theme, it seems like it would make more sense to start a new thread for that/make a small sticky saying that you're always looking for new, better themes, than to continue adding pages and pages of new theme discussion to this page, until people have to start wading through 100+ pages of people going through the (long) process of making a theme that may or may not become a new default.

Just my two cents.

EDIT: Changed a lot of words. Hopefully no longer looks like a personal attack...

ZincAlloy:
cabbiev2 is by no means the ultimate default theme. there are weaknesses to it (only graphic volume and battery meters, no peak meters, disagreements about font sizes on some targets - though I doubt we will ever get the font thing right. what we have now might be a good compromise), but it has many strong points: it looks pretty nice, it sports "rockbox colors", album art (but still looks good without any album art present) and you guys (and gals) were very enthusiastic about it (which is why cabbiev2 was ported to all targets and even made default). It's a standard that all future themes will have to be measured against. not more, not less. It won't be easy to create a more suitable default theme.

Llorean:
Is "the lack of a font in the appropriate sizes with a wide enough range of characters" NOT a weakness? Or do you think it's a STRENGTH of the theme that it's unsuitable for use for many languages? Do you suggest that there are no other weaknesses whatsoever? While I would not (and most explicitly DID NOT, if you compare your quote to my actual text) call it a problem with the theme, it's definitely a point in which it could be stronger. Please, don't confuse "weaknesses" with "problems", and please read what I say rather than what you think I said.

I mean seriously, why do people keep assuming that I mean something other than what I've said? It's beginning to drive me insane. Why on Earth would I take the time to type out a sentence if I didn't actually mean exactly what that sentence said? Are you assuming I accidentally typed the wrong word, or what? Please, enlighten me as to why you think you know what I meant better than I, the writer, did.

ZincAlloy:
That's not really a theme problem. it's a font problem. some of the font sizes we're using are already covering a pretty wide range of characters.
If I recall correctly crzyboyster is making the unifont version ready for release.

Llorean:
The unifont version introduces new weaknesses since the font is huge. If you look, I said fonts in appropriate sizes. For some screens, unifont is far too large to be considered an appropriate size. While this isn't a problem other themes can fix (without creation of custom fonts) it's still very much a weakness with this theme, as it was decided to use an existing font rather than modify an existing one or create a new one.

Edit: Done, the topic is changed to one more appropriate.

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