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Offline Darko

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[Help] Sansa Clip v2 bricked, NAND reset OK, what next?
« on: October 23, 2011, 03:08:02 PM »
Hi! 30 minutes ago I had perfectly working Clip v2, now it's dead. Or it appears to be so. "Crashed" or "Bricked", what's the differece? Rockbox configured and installed succesfully, but now it won't boot. Battery is/was at 100% charge.

I followed this
http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick

Opened it. Unsoldered battery "-" wire. Shorted 2 NAND pins and plugged into USB (Windows XP SP3). Recognised as unformatted drive. Out of curiosity formatted it with FAT32, works as a fancy flash drive (980 MB).

I am really no expert with Linux, trubleshooting guide says I have to boot with Linux in order to access hidden partition with Firmware. Can this be done under Windows? Is there any utility to access hiden partition under Windows XP? Is my player really dead without a chance? Please help, say something, anything, I am all ears.

To add, I have Hirens Boot CD with some Linux, can I use that or you prefer Ubuntu?

Darko
« Last Edit: October 23, 2011, 03:12:47 PM by Darko »
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Offline saratoga

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Re: [Help] Sansa Clip v2 bricked, NAND reset OK, what next?
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2011, 03:21:11 PM »
You don't have to use linux, just its recommended since the instructions assume linux.  If you know the windows equivalents of those commands, you can use Windows.  Otherwise use a live cd or VM.

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Offline Darko

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Re: [Help] Sansa Clip v2 bricked, NAND reset OK, what next?
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2011, 04:30:31 PM »
Hey, saratoga thanks!

In the mean time I booted Mini Linux from Hirens Boot CD and GPart only sees 980 MB of space. There is no any hidden partition? Also tried some DOS programs from Hirens, same behaviour. Am I missing somethin?

in the recovery page it says this:
"Now you can access the hidden part of the NAND flash over that drive (reported by fdisk). "

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folks over @ IRC channel explained I need "dd" utility and that hiden partition is not neceserally hiden, its just a first empty space on that partition. I'll report as soon as i have something...

Thank you all
Darko
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Offline saratoga

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Re: [Help] Sansa Clip v2 bricked, NAND reset OK, what next?
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2011, 04:39:22 PM »
There are no partitions at all (well beyond the one you probably created when you formatted).  You've just got raw access to the flash memory.  

Edit:  Have you looked at that wiki page very carefully?  From the very first paragraph:

"Execute "sudo fdisk -l". It should report a drive without partitions, with a size of 979.75MB"

Where are you getting that there should be hidden partitions exactly?
« Last Edit: October 23, 2011, 04:54:38 PM by saratoga »
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Offline Darko

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Re: [Help] Sansa Clip v2 bricked, NAND reset OK, what next?
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2011, 05:04:13 PM »
Well, in this sentance "Now you can access the hidden part of the NAND flash over that drive (reported by fdisk)." Maybe I misanderstood it or it is badly written?

I tried to format it inside Windows with FAT32 and it works as a regular USB Flash Disk, also copied m30pa.bin original firmware, but player still does not power on. Maybe I need to resolder battery again and diconnect USB power?
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Offline saratoga

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Re: [Help] Sansa Clip v2 bricked, NAND reset OK, what next?
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2011, 05:11:34 PM »
Quote from: Darko on October 23, 2011, 05:04:13 PM
I tried to format it inside Windows with FAT32 and it works as a regular USB Flash Disk, also copied m30pa.bin original firmware, but player still does not power on. Maybe I need to resolder battery again and diconnect USB power?

Where did you see that you should format it fat32?
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Offline Darko

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Re: [Help] Sansa Clip v2 bricked, NAND reset OK, what next?
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2011, 05:15:47 PM »
nowhere, i simply tried to see what is gonna happen, i run windows you know :)

i am downloading live linux cd in the background with dd tool, so will try from linux to re-live it.

Post Merge: October 23, 2011, 09:18:07 PM
I started d/l Knoppix, but now I checked it doesn't come with "dd" tool. Can someone tell what Linux distro should I use for OF firmware restoration?
« Last Edit: October 23, 2011, 09:24:19 PM by Darko »
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Offline JdGordon

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Re: [Help] Sansa Clip v2 bricked, NAND reset OK, what next?
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2011, 10:47:05 PM »
What made you think your clip was unrecoverably bricked that made you use the unbrick page? In all likelyhood 5 minutes on IRC would have told you a hard reset was all that was needed :(
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Offline Darko

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Re: [Help] Sansa Clip v2 bricked, NAND reset OK, what next?
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2011, 02:32:51 AM »
Well, there I haven't found any word of hard-reset on Rockbox firmware page, only either succsessfull instalation/running or bricking. If you mean holding Power button for a long time, I tried it and nothing. As mentioned, I also unsoldered battery and tried back again. Wheather screen is just black or really black, do not know. Does anyone know what Linux distro to use for possible recovery?

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Whyle I'm waiting Ubuntu to download (thanks to the people over @IRC), I was fiddling with dd for Windows and finally found meaningull tutorial. This is what I get -- question mark ? when I do --list command.

* dd_for_windows.png (8.98 kB, 669x338 - viewed 87 times.)

* dd_for_windows.png (20.05 kB, 665x778 - viewed 76 times.)
« Last Edit: October 24, 2011, 04:37:33 AM by Darko »
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Offline Darko

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Re: [Help] Sansa Clip v2 bricked, NAND reset OK, what next?
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2011, 04:52:18 PM »
I wish to make a quick thank to wonderfull people here at Rockbox IRC channel -- with their help I was able to repair my Sansa Clip v2!!!  :) :) :)

(joy and happines restored)

Tommorow I will be very bussy but will start writing about whole procedure, I will be using IRC logs as a help -- in order to help others in similar situation. I will also make some pics before put my Sansa Clip back together.

Thank you all again
Darko
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Offline Chronon

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Re: [Help] Sansa Clip v2 bricked, NAND reset OK, what next?
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2011, 07:49:24 PM »
It sounds like it will be a nice addition to the wiki.  :)
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