[Sansa Clip+] A better shortcut to return to WPS

[JdGordon]

mfe555: incase you hadnt guessed already, you're fighting an unwinnable battle. UI changes basically never happen because the people that want the change get shouted down by the people who like to do nothing more than reject any possible changes. (CHANGE IS BAAAAD! MKAY!)

While i am tending to agree with you (and I have this vague recollection of the button origionally working like that), a poll wont really help at all. Change happens when someone comes up with a patch, and then someone with the required balls gets it through the field of naysayers (which is usually one very loud and annoying person).

So come up with the patch and then we'll talk.

[flaps]

This should settle it and please everyone (or at least I hope so)

http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12288

[mfe555]

I'm so happy to see that I've been fighting only a single windmill.

Thanks a lot for your encouraging support, saratoga and JdGordon.

Very special thanks to you, flaps, for starting the magic. So "GO_TO_PREVIOUS_MUSIC" was a function that already existed, ready to be used in this context? I hadn't dared to imagine that the solution would so easy (which certainly doesn't mean I undervalue your great work).

If the motto "special (low key count) devices benefit from special solutions" is accepted, I hope your patch will make it into the next release.

[JdGordon]

I don't mind the patch flaps posted, though I would like to see it more generalised to a hotkey type thing so users can choose what they want that button to do. We already have a hotkey setting for the filebrowsers and the WPS so the precedent is there to add it to the main menu too. Of course with the default set to "last screen"/GO_TO_PREVIOUS users who are currently happy wont lose anything.

flaps, if that sounds like something you want to do and need help buzz me on IRC

[sandwich600]

If you're in the pitch alteration screen, you're probably going to need to look at the device anyway. The suggestion here isn't going to solve your problem.

 
I sometimes end up on the pitch alteration screen when trying to pause or resume the music in my pocket.  This happens when you keep the pause button pressed slightly too long.  The first you know about it is the next attempted resume/pause, nothing happens. A quick way of returning to the WPS would solve my problem in this case.

[flaps]

mfe555, did you manage to compile rockbox sucessfully? I can send you the .zip file if you want to.

JdGordon, is that really needed? I don't really see the use of going to the main menu then imediatelly back to the previous screen

[JdGordon]

I jus got my clip out and had a play. and having home go back to previous is indeed nice.
Your patch will only change the gorup of people complaining. Making it configurable wont be hard to add and will make evryon happy

[flaps]

Ok, I'll see what I can do, but I'm slightly busy at the moment, maybe next week or so. If someone else wants to do it, it's fine by me

[mfe555]

mfe555, did you manage to compile rockbox sucessfully? I can send you the .zip file if you want to.

Yes it would be really nice if you could send me a compiled version. I'll then do some beta testing and report if there's anything unexpected.

[flaps]

mfe555: Ok, here it is
http://www.mediafire.com/?cv2sfoss1b51o9h
(I believe the only thing that can be considered unexpected is that when the player is stopped and you press home in the root, playback is resumed, but that's because the WPS doesn't work in stop)

[pabouk]

I believe the only thing that can be considered unexpected is that when the player is stopped and you press home in the root, playback is resumed, but that's because the WPS doesn't work in stop

I think both functions (return to WPS, resume playback) have the same importance and it is logical that they are accessible using the same button combination. I am convinced that both functions should be accessible using a "blind" (usually single-button) combination on all players if possible. Sansa Clip+ has 9 buttons so it should be possible there.

[flaps]

I think both functions (return to WPS, resume playback) have the same importance and it is logical that they are accessible using the same button combination.

I mean the patch should work fine, and the only thing someone testing could maybe consider unexpected is that it works as "Resume playback", not just "Go to WPS", but that's actually expected.

I am convinced that both functions should be accessible using a "blind" (usually single-button) combination on all players if possible. Sansa Clip+ has 9 buttons so it should be possible there.

I don't understand, isn't Home key twice good enough? That's what this whole topic is about

[pabouk]

I don't understand, isn't Home key twice good enough? That's what this whole topic is about

Yes, double press or short-long press is absolutely perfect as a "blind" (i.e. usable without looking at display) button combination.

Contrary menu is usually unusable without looking at display if you do not have other aids (like voiced menu).

[flaps]

I jus got my clip out and had a play. and having home go back to previous is indeed nice.
Your patch will only change the gorup of people complaining. Making it configurable wont be hard to add and will make evryon happy

Oh, I just reread this correctly and I'm confused. Who is this group of people that would complain?

I don't think any clip user would complain, it's not something complainable, it isn't a feature to go to the root then go back to the menu you were, that's not useful in any sense, as you can't do anything in the root.

I'm actually against a hotkey, it should be default for players with no single-button WPS shortcut -- who would opt-out something like this anyway?

[JdGordon]

not everyone has the same usage habbits as you, don't assume anything just because you like it one way.