Redesign of the www.rockbox.org front page

[GodEater]

Absolutely, and I'm sure macku is aware of that too.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind a gradual change over of those either. Try to get each one right before moving onto the next one - otherwise we risk swamping our designed with work

[evilnick]

I really like the look of the proposed redesign. It's shiny and pretty!

[macku]

http://macku.to.pl/rockbox/index.html
Check last two ones images. What's new?
1. I added proposal submenu that will show after mouse enter menu category. I'm not sure about including it on page. But maybe?
2. The players menu. It will show player image without reloading page using slide script. The main disadvantage of this solution is that I will have to create images for all of players.

Absolutely, and I'm sure macku is aware of that too.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind a gradual change over of those either. Try to get each one right before moving onto the next one - otherwise we risk swamping our designed with work

I think when to code will be done and written good it will "fit" for wiki without too many improvements.

[Llorean]

I think the white area really draws attention to itself, and I don't like the idea of the main focus point of the page being links that say "This isn't the page you want."

Could we see either a version of the page without the menu there (just a smallish white separator) or maybe a version where a few of the links (Screenshots, Glossary maybe?) are in the yellow area, and the "What is Rockbox" is in the white area?

[GodEater]

Could we actually start getting some HTML / CSS for this too, so we can play around with the layouts a bit ?

[motionman95]

I know CSS and HTML, so I'm pretty sure I could help with that.

[macku]

http://macku.to.pl/rockbox/index.html

@Llorean: Check 9, 10 and 11 versions.
@GodEater and @motionman95: I think for now the goal is to choose the best mockup and after that start creating page code.

So, maybe let's do some vote? If there is no objection.

[j8048188]

One comment about
http://macku.to.pl/rockbox/top_changed.html

It would be nice to have recent svn changes.  I'm not a dev, but I check that every day.

[linuxstb]

I haven't read all this thread, but there is a constant fight between making the site useful to people that like to visit it every day, whilst at the same time trying to make it friendly to new users.

So my proposal would be to split it.

i.e. have www.rockbox.org as a site dedicated to promoting and supporting Rockbox,  and a devs.rockbox.org site which would be more or less what the current site is.

The wiki could be similarly split - have a developer's wiki on devs.rockbox.org, and a wiki for users on www.rockbox.org.

[JdGordon]

I dont think splitting the wiki is needed, or the site really, it just needs an extra dev.html site with recent svn logs and if possible a simple one line summary of the build table

[perfectdrug]

With 9 and 11 I like that you have kind of an active Supported players section. So that the new user has to click for his player, to find if it is supported or not. This prevents in my opinion misreading.
The new design looks pretty slick, keep up the good work !

[linuxstb]

I dont think splitting the wiki is needed, or the site really, it just needs an extra dev.html site with recent svn logs and if possible a simple one line summary of the build table

My suggestion is more subtle (or perhaps more radical) than that.    The problem IMO is that the current site is too big, and full of lots of information users don't need.

The idea is that www.rockbox.org should be designed around users of Rockbox - not "us" (i.e. the developers and people who regularly post in the forums).  I would go as far as saying it should be written from scratch.  The entire site could be implemented as a wiki, making it more under the control of users.

devs.rockbox.org would be more or less what the current site is, including the existing wiki content.

But it's just an idea - I've only thought about it for about 10 minutes...

[soap]

I think the white area really draws attention to itself, and I don't like the idea of the main focus point of the page being links that say "This isn't the page you want."

I disagree 100%. 
I did not see a white band, I saw three distinct areas with three distinct types of content.  The white bar was not the main focus in my initial impression.

[bluebrother]

devs.rockbox.org would be more or less what the current site is, including the existing wiki content.

But it's just an idea - I've only thought about it for about 10 minutes...

While I would call it dev.rockbox.org I quite like the idea.

[JdGordon]

would or wouldnt?