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Title: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Homer19k on February 10, 2016, 04:43:48 PM
Well now that my old Sansa Clip+`s battery is dying i am looking for a replacement. The AGPtek-players seem quite well recived,considering amazon reviews and the price tag. My questions are now:
 
Does anybody have experience with those players?
Are they any good for audiobooks?
Is the batterylife really as good as advertised?
Which model could be recommended?

AGPtEK A02 70 Hours Music Playback MP3 Lossless Sound Entry
AGPTek A06 50 Hours Music Playback Bluetooth MP3 Lossless
AGPtEK B03 8GB MP3 Lossless Sound 40 Hours Music Playback

One major point (where rockbox spoiled me) would be the speed of the fastforward and if it would be possible to disable "the skip to next title option".


Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: pamaury on February 13, 2016, 09:09:08 PM
This topic has already been discussed at http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51071.msg235808.html#msg235808 (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51071.msg235808.html#msg235808) where the designers of those device said they are based on Rockchip Nano-C and Nano-C which don't have enough memory for a port. They said their next device might be designed so that a port is possible.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Homer19k on February 13, 2016, 10:30:37 PM
Thanks for the answer. But the technical details in those posts are far beyond my kowlege. I was asking in a more general way simply because the amazon reviews for those 3 models ,  seem relatively mixed(more on the positiv side though). They are all in the same quite low price range (around 30-40€). So could any of those models be considered an alternativ to the sansa clip+? Now that they arent produced anymore and only sold at exorbitant prices. Any future agptek-models that would support rockbox would have a huge bonus in my eyes but for now an ui that isnt totally terrible would be enough. 
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: humble sea bass on February 15, 2016, 11:39:36 PM
From a bare-bones features perspective, they are OK. Only recently did they add a "back" and "menu" button to one of their devices devices. Up till then you had this weird button layering going on where even turning the volume up was a weird experience. Most of this stuff I would be able to look over  if it had the ability to just go to a folder and Play All + Subfolders akin to the rockbox Insert Shuffled.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Amine Didone on June 21, 2016, 09:02:42 AM
To answer your question yes, Agptek MP3 players are good MP3 players. They're improving their products so fast, and they bring new MP3 every now and then.

Agptek recently (May of 2016) launched an MP3 player very similar to the Sansa Clip+: 8GB, Micro SD card up to 32GB, a clip on back, it comes only in black color, and the company claims that it can deliver up to 35 hours of batter life.
It looks like very good competition to the Sansa Clip+, both in design and in performance, especially that now a days Sansa Clip+ can't be sold by fair price, always a blowed price, because it's SanDisk stopped making them.

I recommend you read Agptek A12 review  http://mp3playeradvisor.com/agptek-a12-mp3-player-review/ (http://mp3playeradvisor.com/agptek-a12-mp3-player-review/) to learn more about its features and specifications.

By the way Agptek B03 model is very good too, it comes with independent volume controls unlike the previous model A02.
So B03 is definitely better than A02.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: saratoga on June 21, 2016, 10:35:56 AM
You should take that a12 player apart and see what processor it uses.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: hunterleo on June 22, 2016, 03:15:08 AM
You should take that a12 player apart and see what processor it uses.

A12 uses ATJ2127 which does not support to be ported with Rockbox yet.

We are designing a whole new model to support Bluetooth and which might support Rockbox.

Thank you,

Leo
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: kalo86 on July 24, 2016, 10:53:46 AM
Hi hunterleo,
Can you anticipate the form factor of the new AGPTek DAP? Will it be similar to the actual A12 model?
Thank you!
Regards,

kalo86
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Homer19k on July 25, 2016, 08:07:03 AM
Thanks everybody for the advices. I just ordered the Agptek A12. That the design is optically pretty much the same to the Clip+ and promisses approx 35 hours per charge where the main points of my decision.

Although with a bit of reluctance. You see its ratet 4,5 Stars on (german)amazon BUT if you read the reviews you notice that of those 30 most are by sponsored Product testers who have gotten the player reduced or free and always gave five stars. So the rating of 4,5 Stars is pretty untrustworthy (for now).
I understand that a relatively new product is bound to have some sponsored testers to get some attention but as it stands now it gives a realy fishy impression.

Well i will write a small review when i have tested it. Lets hope for the best


Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: hunterleo on July 25, 2016, 08:37:02 PM
Hi hunterleo,
Can you anticipate the form factor of the new AGPTek DAP? Will it be similar to the actual A12 model?
Thank you!
Regards,

kalo86

Yes.

It will be similar to A02 model with independent volume control.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: kalo86 on July 26, 2016, 02:30:49 PM
Thank you for the replay!
Can you estimate an ETA for the lunch?
Regards,

kalo86
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Homer19k on July 27, 2016, 01:50:42 PM
Well now i hold the "A12" in my hands i have to admit that i am dissapointed.

The design itself is alright(quite close to the clip+),  the buttons work ok and the clip on the back makes a sturdy impression. The display again is similar to the clip +. Simple bright blue on black background.  Good enough to see everything displayed clearly. Cant judge the battery life yet but i assume with 35 hours promissed (considering how much luck you have with the battery and how high you turn the volume) it should be at least 30 hours.  8 GB filespace is quite enough for me although it can be extended with extra micro sd cards. Soundquality is good enough for my untrained ears.

The main problem for me is the Firmware. I use mp3- Players mainly for listening to podcasts and audiobooks where single files can easily reach upto several hours playtime.

The biggest flaw is the agonizingly slow fast forward. If you hold the button down the fastest speed is around "20-30 second jumps" fast forward for every second you hold the button. So in practice if i have a file thats 2 hours long you have to continuously push the button down for severaly minutes to get to the 1 hour mark.

In direct link to the slow fast forward is that you cant deactivate the "skip to next title- option" of this button. So everytime you accidently just push it you jump to the next title or (if there is just one file in the folder) restart it. With a player of that size and buttondesign it happens all the time that you accidentaly push it when you simply handle it. There is a keylock but thats of no help in such cases. Its infuriating if you push it during a long file and just wanted to use another equializer setting.
 
I dont know if a firmware update could resolve those issues but as it stands now its a good player for music but not for anything with longer playing times. I will probably return it
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: kalo86 on July 27, 2016, 04:28:22 PM
Hi Homer19k,

Can you make a comparison between the AGPTek A12 and Sansa Clip+?
I would like to read your feelings between A12 and other portable players.
Thank you!

kalo86
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Homer19k on July 27, 2016, 06:26:54 PM
I am not really someone with much knowledge in the field of mp3 player. The clip+ was the first player i specificly chose because it was recomended as a good player for Audiobooks. And that you could tickle a few extra hours battery life  with Rockbox out of it was a nice bonus ;D.
 
 All i care for in a mp3 player is:
- Battery life
- that its userfriendly for long audiofiles (audiobooks and podcasts)
- that it can take a bit of punishment
- and a good "bang for the buck"-ratio
Everything else is secondary for me.
-Audioquality is not that important for audiobooks
-Playlist are useless for me ( that the player recognises 001 is followed by 002 is enough)
-Any great audio adjustments are not needed 
So keep in mind that my impression is through a very narrow point of view

So for the comparism on the surface the A12 is pretty much a slightly updated version of the clip+. Longer Battery life, micro usd-port  instead of mini-usb and a pretty redundant on/off switch on the side. I consider it redundant because you dont need two ways to turn such a small device on or off (you can just press the play button in the middle for 3 seconds).
Battery life seems alright so far. clip+ best case 15H A12 best case 35 hours
It gives an equally sturdy impression to the clip+ (for that price range). So again i assume it will survive a bit of rough handling.

As i said in my earlier post its glaring weakness is the Firmware especially for my purposes. Although i dont have the knowledge if the slow fast forwarding is because of the software or a limitation of the chip of the device



 
 

Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: hunterleo on July 28, 2016, 04:15:46 AM
I am not really someone with much knowledge in the field of mp3 player. The clip+ was the first player i specificly chose because it was recomended as a good player for Audiobooks. And that you could tickle a few extra hours battery life  with Rockbox out of it was a nice bonus ;D.
 
 All i care for in a mp3 player is:
- Battery life
- that its userfriendly for long audiofiles (audiobooks and podcasts)
- that it can take a bit of punishment
- and a good "bang for the buck"-ratio
Everything else is secondary for me.
-Audioquality is not that important for audiobooks
-Playlist are useless for me ( that the player recognises 001 is followed by 002 is enough)
-Any great audio adjustments are not needed 
So keep in mind that my impression is through a very narrow point of view

So for the comparism on the surface the A12 is pretty much a slightly updated version of the clip+. Longer Battery life, micro usd-port  instead of mini-usb and a pretty redundant on/off switch on the side. I consider it redundant because you dont need two ways to turn such a small device on or off (you can just press the play button in the middle for 3 seconds).
Battery life seems alright so far. clip+ best case 15H A12 best case 35 hours
It gives an equally sturdy impression to the clip+ (for that price range). So again i assume it will survive a bit of rough handling.

As i said in my earlier post its glaring weakness is the Firmware especially for my purposes. Although i dont have the knowledge if the slow fast forwarding is because of the software or a limitation of the chip of the device

Thank you for the suggestions. We will improve the features of audiobooks and podcasts. The max speed of fast forwarding is 8X for this chip, so we couldn't revise it with this model. We will take your advice for the new model. 

Regards,

Leo
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Homer19k on July 28, 2016, 04:59:55 PM
Thanks for the answer Leo.
A faster fastforward and the option to deactivate the "skip to next title" would certainly be a big plus for people who use their player mainly for audiobooks.

Also for the switch of the A12
I see the purpose off the switch now. As in as to prevent to accidentially turning the device on but that is such a rare occurrence (for me at least) that i still think its redundant.

Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: hunterleo on July 28, 2016, 08:11:46 PM
Thanks for the answer Leo.
A faster fastforward and the option to deactivate the "skip to next title" would certainly be a big plus for people who use their player mainly for audiobooks.

Also for the switch of the A12
I see the purpose off the switch now. As in as to prevent to accidentially turning the device on but that is such a rare occurrence (for me at least) that i still think its redundant.

Holding the middle buttons to go to sleep mode. Switch off is for long term keeping when it is not in use. That is good for the battery.

Thank you,

Leo
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Kconv on July 30, 2016, 04:52:15 PM
I am not really someone with much knowledge in the field of mp3 player. The clip+ was the first player i specificly chose because it was recomended as a good player for Audiobooks. And that you could tickle a few extra hours battery life  with Rockbox out of it was a nice bonus ;D.
 
 All i care for in a mp3 player is:
- Battery life
- that its userfriendly for long audiofiles (audiobooks and podcasts)
- that it can take a bit of punishment
- and a good "bang for the buck"-ratio
Everything else is secondary for me.
-Audioquality is not that important for audiobooks
-Playlist are useless for me ( that the player recognises 001 is followed by 002 is enough)
-Any great audio adjustments are not needed 
So keep in mind that my impression is through a very narrow point of view

So for the comparism on the surface the A12 is pretty much a slightly updated version of the clip+. Longer Battery life, micro usd-port  instead of mini-usb and a pretty redundant on/off switch on the side. I consider it redundant because you dont need two ways to turn such a small device on or off (you can just press the play button in the middle for 3 seconds).
Battery life seems alright so far. clip+ best case 15H A12 best case 35 hours
It gives an equally sturdy impression to the clip+ (for that price range). So again i assume it will survive a bit of rough handling.

As i said in my earlier post its glaring weakness is the Firmware especially for my purposes. Although i dont have the knowledge if the slow fast forwarding is because of the software or a limitation of the chip of the device

Thank you for the suggestions. We will improve the features of audiobooks and podcasts. The max speed of fast forwarding is 8X for this chip, so we couldn't revise it with this model. We will take your advice for the new model. 

Regards,

Leo


I have similar interests with an mp3 player. Rockbox has by far and wide the best bookmarking of any firmware out there.

For audiobooks and podcasts, this is probably the biggest thing that rockbox has over their normal firmware, at least in my opinion. If you are looking to pull in more people interested in audiobooks good bookmarking is the way to go.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: pebble on August 02, 2016, 05:46:51 AM
..now a days Sansa Clip+ can't be sold by fair price, always a blowed price, because it's SanDisk stopped making them.
Could somebody explain, why those older Clips are expensive (AFAIK new were $40-60)? SanDisk does have newer models (Sport,Jam), so it's not the discontinuation. Sound quality? Rockbox support?
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Kconv on August 02, 2016, 12:40:17 PM
..now a days Sansa Clip+ can't be sold by fair price, always a blowed price, because it's SanDisk stopped making them.
Could somebody explain, why those older Clips are expensive (AFAIK new were $40-60)? SanDisk does have newer models (Sport,Jam), so it's not the discontinuation. Sound quality? Rockbox support?

Usually once a product stops being sold price goes up, rockbox support is another issue.

Mp3 players that handle audibooks well are few and far between, mp3 players in general are disapearing in favor of phones, but phones are actually not that great for audiobooks, because trying to touch a little spot on a screen while walking or running is much harder than pressing a raised button.

This makes those little clips really desirable for people who listen to alot of audiobooks or podcasts.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Sour_Graping on August 04, 2016, 05:00:27 AM
Hi

Does the AGPtek A12 support replay gain and have a search function in playlist?

I hope it has both functions or even just the replay gain.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: hunterleo on August 04, 2016, 09:11:05 PM
Hi

Does the AGPtek A12 support replay gain and have a search function in playlist?

I hope it has both functions or even just the replay gain.

No, it hasn't. Search function in playlist? You have too many playlists? Or you want to search certain song in one playlist?
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Sour_Graping on August 05, 2016, 01:41:07 AM
Hi

Does the AGPtek A12 support replay gain and have a search function in playlist?

I hope it has both functions or even just the replay gain.

No, it hasn't. Search function in playlist? You have too many playlists? Or you want to search certain song in one playlist?

Search a certain song in playlist like foobar's jump to file/search in playlist.
Those two functions in rockbox were indispensable to me so I asked.

Looking forward to your rockbox capable device in the future.
Had a clip zip before but it broke half a year ago(crappy buttons no longer work) and I still haven't found a good alternative.
I saw the agptek A12 on amazon and I thought it was a good alternative.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: hunterleo on August 07, 2016, 09:18:20 PM
If our new player can be ported with Rockbox. It will have the features as other Rockbox compatible players.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Sour_Graping on August 12, 2016, 12:45:14 AM
Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: JimZipCode on August 23, 2016, 11:40:55 AM
If our new player can be ported with Rockbox...
HunterLeo, I'm very grateful for your participation on this forum.  If your new player can be ported with Rockbox (and will hold a microSD card), I'll be lining up to get one!  Please keep us posted.
 :)
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: gem on September 09, 2016, 10:21:50 PM
Can I find a diagram of the menu tree for the A12 anywhere?  I suspect it has some functions that are not documented in the present online .pdf manual, which is very sparse.  (I could certainly write one that is more complete.)  I would like to explore further before buying one.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: spentforce on October 08, 2016, 05:51:04 PM
I purchased an AGPTEK A12 to see if it might be a good replacement for the Sansa Clip+ for me.  I have been using it for a couple of weeks now. 

It is a pretty good device, with good audio quality; but I won't be buying another until the firmware adds a few important (to me) features.

I mostly use my mp3 player to listen to audiobooks.  I occasionally listen to music files, but that is a small fraction of the time that I spend with audiobooks. 

The battery life is longer than the Sansa product and the battery charges to a full state very quickly.  The audio quality is not noticeably better or worse than the Sansa product.

1)  The playback order does not seem to be in either alphabetical order or related to the MP3 tags.  This means that audiobooks that are broken into separate chapter files often play out of order.  I have  gotten around this problem by writing a PERL script that writes writes the files to the player in the proper order.  This appears to work, but it is not really convenient.

2)  Fast forward speed is very slow.  I worked around this problem by breaking my files into very small chunks using mp3splt.

3)  The player does not seem to remember where it was in a particular track from one time to the next.  This means that if I stop listening to a large file one hour into the track; I have to spend a lot of time trying to fast forward to the correct point the next time that I use the player.  I have worked around this problem by breaking my files into very small chunks using mp3splt.

There are some other minor issues, but these are the ones that are causing me grief.  If there is a setting somewhere or a better workaround that addresses any of these concerns, I would like to know about it.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: gem on October 08, 2016, 08:13:46 PM
There are rumors that the A12 can record in MP3 format, possibly in WAV format (but which WAV ... ADPCM, or Microsoft 16-bit WAV?), and several different bitrates.  If the rumors are true, that would be an advantage over the Clip family.  I can't find the info anywhere.

Can you check the RECORD menu(s) and try to ferret out some more specific info about the recording capabilities?  A list of all the options would be nice, for example:
• MP3, stereo, 128kbps, 44.1kHz
• MP3, mono, 64kbps, 32kHz
• WAV, stereo, 16bits/channel, 44.1kHz
etc.

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Trapper01 on October 22, 2016, 11:42:56 AM
Hi,
I wanted to ask if the A12 has the feature, that if you insert MicroSD card, it acts like one storage together with internal storage, like in Sansa Clip+. Thank you.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: gem on October 22, 2016, 11:50:51 AM
I had high hopes for the A12.  But nobody seems to be actually answering questions.  And "hunterleo" claimed to be affiliated with AGPtek;  but he has not been back on the forum, has not answered questions, has ignored PMs ... so maybe he is not really with AGPtek at all, but was just "faking" to get information.  Big disappointment about the A12 and AGPtek in general.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: spotburst on October 24, 2016, 05:53:34 AM
well for what it's worth I tried AGPtek A18 (looks so 'new' that it doesn't even appear on the AGPTEK website!)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/A18-Bluetooth-Playback-Lossless-Supports/dp/B01FVZKDYG/ref=sr_1_25?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1477305558&sr=1-25-spons&keywords=agptek&psc=1

I thought that I'd tolerate the bigger size on the basis that it also had BlueTooth.

However, I too was disappointed - as an audiobook & long podcast listener I found that at times it wouldn't even FFWD.
Power down & power up and your position was lost in whatever you were listening to.
Bookmarking (non-existent)
Bluetooth connection was quite unreliable.
I returned this unit to Amazon and decided that I'll replace the battery & jack in my Sansa Clip+ (RockBoxed)
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: gem on October 24, 2016, 07:13:22 AM
What a strange looking player with squared-off corners.  I wonder what prompted that bizarre design.

And sorry to hear about your disappointing experience with it.  Almost every review I've read of an AGPtek device, people are complaining about inability to handle audiobooks conveniently.  Well, the reviews speak for themselves, I guess.

Months later, I am still waiting for a meaningful reply from AGPtek about the A12.  Someone named "Chasty" had originally offered to send me a review sample, since he was unable to answer any technical questions about the device (and of course the manual is a joke).  Now he has stopped corresponding and has disappeared.

Hunterleo seems to have disappeared too as a "representative" of the company, so maybe he never really was one, or maybe he has left AGPtek and has moved on to a better career elsewhere.  RIP hunterleo.

Too bad!  I had hoped AGPtek would be a miraculous replacement for the old Sansa Clip products, especially if they were designed with Rockbox in mind.  But it seems they are mostly good for paperweights (and probably too light to work well for that job).
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: johnb on October 24, 2016, 08:30:17 AM
I feel you are drawing your conclusions about HunterLeo too fast.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: gem on October 24, 2016, 08:45:05 AM
I certainly hope you're right.  The things he said sounded encouraging.  (But it's easy for anyone to make statements in an online forum, without any factual backing.) 

Given that he has disappeared for so long, and that all other correspondence from AGPtek to me (via other channels) has also ceased, I can't help being rather skeptical and pessimistic at the present time.  If he returns -- especially if he has something concrete to show us -- I will be the first one to applaud.

Do you have some actual reason for your feeling?  Or are you just more optimistic than I am?
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: hunterleo on October 24, 2016, 11:17:41 PM
Hi guys,

Sorry for disappearing so long on this forum. I was busy working on our new player.

I have to clarity that I'm not a professional representative for the company. I'm just a guy with Broken-English from the company product team and I'm here to learn any issue regarding Rockbox. Many other issues are beyond the reach of my knowledge. I can help you transfer the issue to the support. Or you may contact support@agptek.com directly.

A12 is our first step to try clip-style music player. It is good for gym people and is not good for "hardcore" user especially sansa clip user. We are a new company for music player and we have to learn things from mistake.

Our new player with whole new hardware is available soon. A12, A02, A18 and Sandisk Jam are using the same chip which causes many issues which we couldn't resolve. The new hardware will solve many problem such as:

1. Bluetooth connection issue.
2. playlist order
3. gapless playback
4. combining files from internal memory and memory card

If you are annoying by the issuea above, I suggest you wait for the new one.

Thank you for your concern.

Leo

Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: gem on October 24, 2016, 11:38:11 PM
Hello Leo, welcome back.  Sorry that I was beginning to think you had gone to another planet or were perhaps not really associated with AGPtek.  So thanks for explaining that situation.

I do not want to clog up this thread with discussions specifically about AGPtek.  But, on the other hand, I sent you a couple of PMs about that (hoping not to bother this thread) but you never answered them.  And the "support" people no longer reply when I write to them.

So should I send you another PM, or should I post stuff here that is slightly off-topic?  Please feel free to PM me if you can at least give me a little help that way (or maybe tell me how to get answers from AGPtek support!).

Thanks!
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: JimZipCode on October 25, 2016, 08:58:49 AM
Our new player with whole new hardware is available soon.
Yay!  Do you have a date yet?
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: hunterleo on October 26, 2016, 06:01:30 AM
Our new player with whole new hardware is available soon.
Yay!  Do you have a date yet?

The software part takes much more time than we estimated.  Hopefully, it's available before December.

Thank you,

Leo
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: snIP3r on December 11, 2016, 07:14:13 AM
Hi leo!

ist the device perhaps the b03? it seems to be new and is described as the updated version of the a03...

greets
snIP3r
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: bennor on December 12, 2016, 12:13:43 PM
The software part takes much more time than we estimated.  Hopefully, it's available before December.
Any update on when this new model will be released? Or if it has been released what model is it?
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: JimZipCode on December 29, 2016, 02:56:27 PM
Any update on when this new model will be released? Or if it has been released what model is it?

See here:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51071.msg238609.html#msg238609
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: bennor on December 29, 2016, 05:55:38 PM
See here:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51071.msg238609.html#msg238609
Thanks, already seen it. My reply to hunterleo in this thread was 11 days prior to hunterleo reply to someone else in that other thread. Seems hunterleo has stopped replying to this thread. Either way good news a new unit may be coming out some time (hopefully) soon.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: KiwiCam on January 29, 2017, 04:19:09 PM
Hi guys,

Sorry for disappearing so long on this forum. I was busy working on our new player.

I have to clarity that I'm not a professional representative for the company. I'm just a guy with Broken-English from the company product team and I'm here to learn any issue regarding Rockbox. Many other issues are beyond the reach of my knowledge. I can help you transfer the issue to the support. Or you may contact support@agptek.com directly.

A12 is our first step to try clip-style music player. It is good for gym people and is not good for "hardcore" user especially sansa clip user. We are a new company for music player and we have to learn things from mistake.

Our new player with whole new hardware is available soon. A12, A02, A18 and Sandisk Jam are using the same chip which causes many issues which we couldn't resolve. The new hardware will solve many problem such as:

1. Bluetooth connection issue.
2. playlist order
3. gapless playback
4. combining files from internal memory and memory card

If you are annoying by the issuea above, I suggest you wait for the new one.

Thank you for your concern.

Leo



I've got quite a few of the AGPtek devices. I'm really looking forward to this new model. I've mentioned this on other forums where Leo participates (Head-Fi for example) and I just hope that this player finally works to suit the needs of Audiobook and Podcast listeners. We need a good Fast Forward & Rewind. Every AGPtek device has this issue.

Thanks
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: hunterleo on February 02, 2017, 08:51:58 PM
Hello,

Thanks for the advice! The AGPTEK Rocker fixed this issue.

Regards,

Leo
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: KiwiCam on February 02, 2017, 09:07:06 PM
Hello,

Thanks for the advice! The AGPTEK Rocker fixed this issue.

Regards,

Leo

HI Leo

Which issue please? The FF & RW speed issue?

I didn't know this device existed...

https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Resolution-Lossless-Audiophile-Supports/dp/B01MZ50M0Y%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-d-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB01MZ50M0Y

I'll have a look. A little on the large side but I can live with that. Do you have a price for shipping to New Zealand please?
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: hunterleo on February 03, 2017, 09:42:29 PM
Hi KiwiCam,

Yes, this one doesn't have the FF & RW speed issue. We couldn't ship to New Zealand yet. Maybe two months later.

Thank you,

Leo

Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: KiwiCam on February 03, 2017, 11:26:26 PM
Hi KiwiCam,

Yes, this one doesn't have the FF & RW speed issue. We couldn't ship to New Zealand yet. Maybe two months later.

Thank you,

Leo



I look forward to it. Any other new players coming out that are smaller that I can keep an eye out for that don't have this FF & RW issue and also Bluetooth? Thanks.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: snIP3r on February 07, 2017, 03:24:56 AM
Hi all!

I have an AGPtek B03 and have encountered some issues:
- There are only 50 Custom Playlist possible
- If the Player is put off and then put on again the Position of the last played track is not remembered

Is there a Firmware Update available? Mine has 20160517_2.0

thx
snIP3r
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: boblpito on February 07, 2017, 04:53:56 AM
What abot AGPtek G05?
Rockbox portable?
Audiobooks/podcasts management?

Thx
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: hunterleo on February 07, 2017, 09:17:14 PM
What abot AGPtek G05?
Rockbox portable?
Audiobooks/podcasts management?

Thx

G05 is not Rockbox portable and it manages Audiobooks/podcasts as music files.

Thank you,

Leo
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: kylemsguy on February 07, 2017, 11:21:55 PM
Hi Leo,

Do you know when the AGPTek Rocker will be available in Canada (Amazon.ca)? Thanks.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: hunterleo on February 08, 2017, 01:52:02 AM
Hi Leo,

Do you know when the AGPTek Rocker will be available in Canada (Amazon.ca)? Thanks.

It takes about 3 weeks. You may purchase from Amazon.com if you need it ASAP.

Thanks,

Leo
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: hunterleo on February 08, 2017, 03:51:03 AM
Hi all!

I have an AGPtek B03 and have encountered some issues:
- There are only 50 Custom Playlist possible
- If the Player is put off and then put on again the Position of the last played track is not remembered

Is there a Firmware Update available? Mine has 20160517_2.0

thx
snIP3r

Yes, only suuport 50 playlists for now. If you hold the middle button to turn it off, it will resume the last played next time.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: A_Bone on February 11, 2017, 05:29:21 PM
There are so many AGPtek players out there now, I've lost track...
Amazon reviews seem to be paid or by reviewers who got the device for free and the rest seem to point out some quite big issues.
Can someone update me on which model is closest to the Clip+ in terms of functionality and size, and whether there is a rockboxable model by now?
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: lebellium on February 11, 2017, 06:02:38 PM
None is rockboxable and the only one that potentially could be one day is their brand new model, the Rocker. Just follow the discussion in the dedicated thread: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,51071.0.html

The Clip+ clone seems to be the A12. I don't own it though.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: A_Bone on February 11, 2017, 10:04:36 PM
Thanks for the info! How could I miss that thread.
The A12 looks like the Clip but the internal values seem to be much inferior... :/
And the Rocker is super bulky...
The search continues... ;)
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: hunterleo on February 22, 2017, 12:36:02 AM
Thanks for the info! How could I miss that thread.
The A12 looks like the Clip but the internal values seem to be much inferior... :/
And the Rocker is super bulky...
The search continues... ;)

Rocker is about the size of AGPTEK A02.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: S.O.Y. on February 28, 2017, 08:59:43 PM
Hi Leo, I have a couple question regarding the red M08 model before considering purchase.
1. Does it have the auto-resume from point of last played file?
2. How are file displayed on the now playing screen. Does it list the artist on one line, then the song name on other. Is there a setting to configure it that way?
3. Does scrolling through the file list in music or folder activate another function other than fast scroll?
4. IS the fast forward issue resolved on this model?
5. Would I able to adjust volume or choose next or previous file while the screen is off? (Not locked)

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Jan_X on March 02, 2017, 03:05:04 AM
Hi Leo, I have a couple question regarding the red M08 model before considering purchase.
1. Does it have the auto-resume from point of last played file?
2. How are file displayed on the now playing screen. Does it list the artist on one line, then the song name on other. Is there a setting to configure it that way?
3. Does scrolling through the file list in music or folder activate another function other than fast scroll?
4. IS the fast forward issue resolved on this model?
5. Would I able to adjust volume or choose next or previous file while the screen is off? (Not locked)

Thanks in advance
Hi,
I'm an assistant of Leo.
1. The M08 model have auto-resume function.
2. If you select "Now Playing" option, you will enter music interface. Just like shown in   the main image.
3. Long press "Up" or "Down" button for fast scroll, press "Right" button for playing the music, adding to playlist or entering now playing interface.
4. FF&RW issue only exist in part of Bluetooth MP3 player. M08 model without Bluetooth function.
5. You could only adjust volume while the screen is off. BTW, M08 model without lock function.
Any other question about this product please feel free contact me again.

Thank you,
Jan
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: hunterleo on March 02, 2017, 06:24:34 AM
Hi Leo, I have a couple question regarding the red M08 model before considering purchase.
1. Does it have the auto-resume from point of last played file?
2. How are file displayed on the now playing screen. Does it list the artist on one line, then the song name on other. Is there a setting to configure it that way?
3. Does scrolling through the file list in music or folder activate another function other than fast scroll?
4. IS the fast forward issue resolved on this model?
5. Would I able to adjust volume or choose next or previous file while the screen is off? (Not locked)

Thanks in advance

Hello,

1. Yes
2. artist name and song name. No setting.
3. No.
4. No. Couldn't fix it for the same hardware of ATJ2127.
5. You may adjust volume but choose next or previous file

For more question, you may contact support at agptek.com.

Thank you,

Leo
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: S.O.Y. on March 03, 2017, 12:21:38 AM

5. Would I able to adjust volume or choose next or previous file while the screen is off? (Not locked)



5. You could only adjust volume while the screen is off. BTW, M08 model without lock function.


So if I comprehend correctly, Is this model without the ability to lock the player so that while in pocket, for example, if a button is pressed no undesired option would be activated (Other than volume control)?




Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Jan_X on March 05, 2017, 10:04:31 PM
The power button have two different functions. Turn off the device with long press power button for 3 seconds. Turn on/off the MP3 player screen with a click. In the screen off status, only the volume button and power button are available.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: S.O.Y. on March 06, 2017, 01:35:00 AM
Thanks for the confirmation.

On a side note, it seems my questions posted about this particular model has peaked interest in others to buy it on amazon. It's sold out now..
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Frankenpod on March 06, 2017, 06:29:20 AM
Thanks for the confirmation.

On a side note, it seems my questions posted about this particular model has peaked interest in others to buy it on amazon. It's sold out now..

Hopefully you mean 'piqued' - wouldn't be good news for the manufacturers if interest has peaked already!
Title: Re: AGPtek-players Any Good?
Post by: seronx on April 14, 2017, 10:33:58 PM
So, first post.  Just registered and everything...

So, got the AGPTEK A20(B?) and am wondering if it uses...
1. The Nano-C(ATJ2127?) chipsets. (No Rockbox)
2. Does it use something that is possibly compatible with Rockbox. (Rockbox is a possibility?)

imho, if the A20 had Rockbox it would do everything for me.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: duo8 on April 15, 2017, 02:02:48 AM
There is only one AGPTek player that rockbox can be ported to. That's the Rocker.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Moom on October 09, 2017, 10:10:22 PM
   I think AGPtek players are pretty great, particularly compared to the Sansa Clip, which has been in a gradual decline.   

   Admittedly, the AGPtek UI can be trying.   I have an R2, and while I like it as a small, lightweight player with a clip, actually using it involves a long, strange learning curve.    However, sound quality is good, and with the slot for a SD card, it can carry a lot of audio files.    In addition, I just got an A12 a few days ago, and I'm impressed with the improvements they've made.   They've straightened out many of the rough spots in using the UI, and the brighter screen is a big improvement.    And they have finally moved the headphone jack to the top of the player!   

   The main problem with the A12 is the manual, never a strong point with AGPtek devices, is probably a step backwards.   The A12 manual is so condensed that information about features is hidden.    I used the Q & A on the Amazon product description to unlock the information about some features which were of interest to me.

   I'm sure there are better music players out there, but at much higher prices.    AGPtek is putting out good music players, many of them in the $25-30 range.     I've been very happy happy with the ones I have bought.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Nowt on November 15, 2017, 03:10:03 AM
My clip+ refurb died a few days ago and now I need a new MP3 player. I think it's time to move on. I was looking at the A12, but I was also reading this thread, regarding Rockboxable AGPtek players. There seemed to be a lot of working towards solutions but it hasn't been that clear on which players, if any, were Rockboxable.
So, is it just the Rocker which is currently Rockboxable or are there others? I like how many songs it can apparently hold, as I kept having to delete songs to make room for newer ones on my clip+.

Or is the A12 worth getting even if it's not? I like the size of it. I've gotten used to clipping my MP3 player on to my pants.

Or is it worth waiting a bit for a new release?
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: lebellium on November 15, 2017, 10:36:17 AM
No AGPtek device is currently rockboxable.

pamaury and above all wodz started to work on the Rocker port some months ago but AGPtek never delivered the promised documentation for development so IIRC wodz kinda stopped working on the port (I also think he missed some free time for development) and I don't know if he plans to resume at any time.

So only the Rocker has the necessary hardware for a Rockbox port but there is no guarantee that there will ever be a functional port.
The other AGPtek devices don't have the required hardware anyway.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: Nowt on November 15, 2017, 03:47:21 PM
Cool. Thanks for the info!
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: niknskrupis on November 16, 2017, 03:05:21 AM
Thanks for the update on the Rocker Rockbox port! There hadn't been any news in a long time in the new port thread, so it was helpful to see this.

Pity though that the port is frozen at the moment, the Rocker itself is quite a solid player and would have been nice to get Rockbox on it. Particularly playlists, as on the Rocker the process is extremely cumbersome, you have to use MediaGo and copy files back and forth.

And every time you unplug it from USB, it does a scan of all the files on the drive for some reason (which takes 10+ minutes if you have a lot of files).

Here's hoping that it can get restarted some day!
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: wodz on November 16, 2017, 03:11:48 PM
AGPtek never delivered the promised documentation for development so IIRC wodz kinda stopped working on the port

That would be minor inconvenience. What really pissed me off is they refused explicitly to release kernel sources and so violating GPL.
Anyway all my work is public: https://github.com/wodz/rockbox-wodz/tree/agptek-rocker. Most of informations are on wiki: https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AgptekRocker. For some reason plugins and codecs crash early when loaded. If someone is interested to pick it up go ahead.
Title: Re: AGPtek-players any good ?
Post by: JimZipCode on December 19, 2017, 01:43:36 AM
Anyway all my work is public: https://github.com/wodz/rockbox-wodz/tree/agptek-rocker. Most of informations are on wiki: https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/AgptekRocker. For some reason plugins and codecs crash early when loaded. If someone is interested to pick it up go ahead.
Oh please let it be so.

My wife just gave me one for my birthday today.   :)