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Rockbox Development => Feature Ideas => Topic started by: brunovdbh on August 11, 2008, 09:42:33 PM

Title: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: brunovdbh on August 11, 2008, 09:42:33 PM
Hey guys. I was thinking about a new feature that could solve a little issue for those (like me) that sometimes put the Sansa e200 on a pocket, then want to change the volume without taking it out. It's a little hard to do that in this situation.

Maybe could be included a feature (what I could call, "Pocket Mode") that temporary changes the Sansa keymap on the WPS screen. Then, instead of using the scroll wheel to change volume, you could use the Play and the Context Menu for that. Then for pausing/resume pause you use the Select Button, and for exiting Pocket Mode, a long press in Select, for instance.

What you guys think?
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: JdGordon on August 11, 2008, 10:22:19 PM
I dont understand... whats wrong with just using the wheel? arguably the wheel is better because you dont need to worry about which way up the e200 is because spining clockwise will always vol down and anti will always vol up...
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: brunovdbh on August 11, 2008, 10:47:03 PM
Oh, you really didn't understand  ;D

The point is, there's no problem in using the scroll wheel to change the volume. But, have you tried to do it with the Sansa in your jeans pant's pocket for instance? It's just nearly impossible to move the scroll (without having to put your finger inside the pocket too), or kinda hard and annoying. I prefer a thousand times using the scroll for changing the volume, just except in that case. So that's why I want just a temporary keymap change with this function, just when the Sansa is in this situation or another one like it, when you just can't move the scroll, but you can single press the buttons with no problem.

Got it now?  :D
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: saratoga on August 11, 2008, 10:50:53 PM
Theres basically no way a feature would be added to SVN to work around a problem with your pants.
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: JdGordon on August 11, 2008, 10:53:47 PM
OH! ok... yeah wont happen :D
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: brunovdbh on August 11, 2008, 10:57:40 PM
Damn!  :D
Am I the only one here who puts the e200 on a pocket?  :o

Where do you guys put it when going for a walk, for instance?  ;D
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: JdGordon on August 11, 2008, 10:58:42 PM
I have volume control on my headphones so not an issue...
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: brunovdbh on August 11, 2008, 11:00:48 PM
I have volume control on my headphones so not an issue...

Not everyone have one...  :(
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: Llorean on August 11, 2008, 11:06:20 PM
I have pockets I can actually fit my hand inside without difficulty because I wear pants that are actually big enough for me.
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: brunovdbh on August 11, 2008, 11:09:55 PM
If I'd know how, I would trying doing this by myself... Like when you activate the Upside Down mode and the keymap temporary changes to let you use your player that way as well..

But I dont have the less ideia in how make an option to do such effect, or even how to put that option in the now playing menu. :(

Hey, maybe could you guys just tell me where can I find that Upside Down mode in the source? I can try to copy it to the Now Playing menu, and set it to just change the keymap... Isn't that too much hard work, is it?
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: JdGordon on August 11, 2008, 11:55:31 PM
upside down mode isnt what you want.. copying that wouldnt work...

what you need to do is add a variable to global_settings (settings.h, settings_list.c) then fix the keymap file (apps/keymaps/keymap-e200.c) so if your setting is true it should return one keymap for the wps, and if its false it should return the usual wps one
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: brunovdbh on August 12, 2008, 12:14:46 AM
Oh god. This really doesn't seem to be SO hard, but I really don't know how to do it.
Any way, thanks for the support, JdGordon.  :-\

I guess I'll have to buy some pants with bigger pockets..  :P


Ah, maybe this topic should get moved to another part of the forum, since I guess it isn't a Feature Request anymore?

Thanks.
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: MarcGuay on August 12, 2008, 11:01:44 AM
Although getting some pants that fit you is still probably a good idea (maybe Llorean can point you to some stores that sell such things), you might want to look into using ReplayGain - it can regulate the volume of your music collection and lessen the need for constant volume adjustments.
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: bluebrother on August 12, 2008, 02:01:02 PM
Am I the only one here who puts the e200 on a pocket?  :o
I do that with my Ipod and the clickwheel works just nice even if it's in my pocket. One thing I like much better about the Ipod than about the sansa ;)
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: MajiKool Dragonâ„¢ on August 13, 2008, 09:38:17 AM
just do what my friend did... cut hole in your pocket. ;D

and...

Am I the only one here who puts the e200 on a pocket?  :o
No you're not, but i just take it out of my pocket to change the volume. ;D
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: TBOL3 on August 20, 2008, 08:03:48 PM
I also put it in my pocket.  And yes, I also have some troubles with scrolling the wheel.
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: Angelfire on August 21, 2008, 09:06:39 AM
Well pardon me, but surely that is what the lanyard is for!  I hang it around my neck, mind you as a girl I do have the advantage of my boobs to keep it from swing erratically from side to side.  ;)  I also utilise the volume control on my in earphones, for the record they are Sennheiser CX500 available from Amazon.co.uk

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-CX-500-Isolating-Headphones/dp/B000VRBLMS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1219327536&sr=8-1

Angelfire
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: GodEater on August 21, 2008, 10:20:18 AM
I always found the cable on the Sennheisers a bit on the short side, but then I don't suspend my DAP around my neck - so perhaps it's not an issue for you ;)
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: Angelfire on August 21, 2008, 10:33:22 AM
Well it seem reasonably long to me, but I believe the cable length varies according to which model phones you have, I have to coil the excess around the player.  Though that is handy as it helps to secure the sleeve on the player, which has a tendency to slide off.

Angelfire
Title: Re: "Pocket Mode" (At least on Sansa e200)
Post by: TBOL3 on August 23, 2008, 12:20:01 PM
I actually got mine referb, so no lanyard, I had to use a string.  I also am male, thus, no boobs.  What I do is put it in a shirt pocket to support it (when I have an over shirt on, otherwise I look incredibly nerdy).

I also did find a small workaround.  If I keep rotating the wheal in my pocket, without pressing hard enough for the fabric to follow, then it will slowly adjust the volume, but it doesn't work well with levies.