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Title: New DAP suggestions plz :)
Post by: puturus on August 07, 2018, 04:42:10 PM
Hi everyone.
So... My sansa clip+ is almost dead (battery runs out in less than 2h) so I'm searching a new rockbox-able device to replace it.
Thought of buying the sansa again, but they stopped fabricating them, and buying from ebay doesn't convince me..
So... Could you guys help me?
The things i care about: SQ at least as my former sansa or better, battery life at least 10h (the more the better tho) and it MUST have microSD card support. Dont care about bluetooth. Don't care if touchscreen or not. Prefer a small sized one, but its ok if its medium. Price, something around 100-150 eur, would pay more if its really worth though.

So.. The possible candidates i found are the xduoo x3 and the agptek rocker. Am i missing some other options?

Any help/suggestion is much appreciated. ^^

TL;DR   a good DAP than can run rockbox, with decent battery for 150eur max.
Title: Re: New DAP suggestions plz :)
Post by: siamak on August 09, 2018, 08:56:58 PM
I have Xduoo X2. UI not that great. But sound is very good. I recently bought P3000. Interface was much better but after comparing it with my old Xduoo X2, I did send it back. I paid new when came out for only $55.
 
Title: Re: New DAP suggestions plz :)
Post by: puturus on August 10, 2018, 02:05:00 AM
I bought a "bassplay p3000" just for the moment, to have something with battery lasting some more hours than my current sansa.

Correct me if I'm wrong. The devices you mention (xduuo x2 and p3000) dont have a rockbox port, right?

Title: Re: New DAP suggestions plz :)
Post by: JimZipCode on August 10, 2018, 10:27:04 AM
The things i care about: SQ at least as my former sansa or better...

I got an AGPTek Rocker, and I'm pleased with it.  The sound quality seems good; I haven't measured it or anything.

I don't think the Rocker is quite as good as the Sansa Clip+ or Clip Zip.  But that's a goddam high bar: those little powerhouses may have been the absolute pinnacle of the DAP era.  I mean seriously; what has ever been as good as a peak-era Clip?

What the Rocker most reminds me of is the Sansa Fuze+.  Form factor very similar; screen size very similar.  The Rocker has better controls than the Fuze+ did; the scrolling on the F+ was maddening.  The Rocker lacks the extra button that the Clips had, that "escaped" or swapped back to the main menu.  That's a noticeable loss for UI purposes; but doesn't really effect the functioning of the player.

Most excellent thing about the Rocker is that it seems to still be in production.  That's kind of a big deal.

I don't know anything about the Xduo.  But I think you can be reasonably confident in buying a Rocker.
Title: Re: New DAP suggestions plz :)
Post by: Duceboia on August 10, 2018, 11:08:32 AM
I have both, the rocker V1 with sharp corners and the Xduuo x3 (the second have a rockbox port made by vortex, you can find that port at Headfi.org). for me Xduuo x3 IS Another planet... battery lasts forever, a little bigger but fantastic player with plenty of output power that manage to drive every headphone I Have tried. the  Rocker is meh, for me.
Title: Re: New DAP suggestions plz :)
Post by: puturus on August 10, 2018, 11:34:19 AM
First, thank you very much for the replies ^^
I was slightly more decided for the rocker, as i like better how it looks and is a bit cheaper than the xduo.
But you (Duceboia) saying it's another planet, then i shall reconsider..
Battery lasts "forever" how much is that? :P
Is its rockbox port stable?

And besides this two, are there any other good DAPs within my price range that can run rockbox that i should consider?

PS: i need rockbox because i need balancing the audio in my headphones (i hear less with my right ear) but maybe there's some player that has this function in original firmware...

Thanks again <3
Title: Re: New DAP suggestions plz :)
Post by: JimZipCode on August 10, 2018, 03:26:35 PM
the  Rocker is meh, for me.
Yeah, I don't really disagree.  It's a plain ol' player, and it doesn't feel super sturdy.  I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't hold up as long as my beloved Clips did.

BUT. 

It works, Rockbox runs on it, the screen is nice, AND it's still in production.  We're not trying to scrounge used and refurb off of eBay: you can totally buy one new, no problem.  That's a pretty nice quality right there.

Title: Re: New DAP suggestions plz :)
Post by: Duceboia on August 10, 2018, 04:11:27 PM
Xduuo battery lasts some 35 hrs against the 6 hours of the Rocker.
Be sure to take account of the 2 microsd ports of Xduuo.... I have atm a 128 and a 200 ALL my music library in MP3 V0... with headroom. I have first version of x3 the one wich is simpler to install Rockbox with dual-boot, some possessor of newer version reports no dualboot ability. Original software plays HD files (no resample of 24bits / 96khz flacs) in case you have some portable dac-amp may be of interest!
Rockbox is more than STABLE in xduuo... I'm usin it almost daily in the last 2 years and 1/2 without a problem.
Another feature is Surround in sound settings... in agptek they don't works!
I have a Sansa Fuze+, a 5th gen video iPod but x3 is MY player of choice.
Title: Re: New DAP suggestions plz :)
Post by: Duceboia on August 10, 2018, 04:17:19 PM
I've bought iPod 5th on ebay for 15€... tarkan adapter so I am free of disk failure...
Another 128'gb sd.... great player too.
Title: Re: New DAP suggestions plz :)
Post by: Duceboia on August 10, 2018, 04:46:50 PM
Oh and sorry, but i'm remembering now... the Rocker has no "true" gapless playback... once in a while you hear sone noise.. disturbing pops, Loud pops, especially on manual track change or when you start to play... I say a LOUD noise. With Headphones i feel that tollerable, not so with IEMS! This thingy is really disturbing when I play music out the Rocker to stereo amp... NO More ext play from Rocker.
Title: Re: New DAP suggestions plz :)
Post by: puturus on August 11, 2018, 05:03:22 AM
Thank you Duceboia :)
I'm getting the xduuo x3 then ^^ you sound very convincing.

Hope I won't have any problems installing rockbox on it.

Cheers mate!
Title: Re: New DAP suggestions plz :)
Post by: Duceboia on August 11, 2018, 05:19:15 AM
Good choice mate!
If you take some time to read istructions, is fool-proof.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/rockbox-xduoo-x3.803844/
Title: Re: New DAP suggestions plz :)
Post by: gomezz on August 11, 2018, 07:55:32 AM
Xduuo battery lasts some 35 hrs against the 6 hours of the Rocker.
Really.  All the specs I have seen say 8 hours.  If it is really nearer 35 then I would have spent the extra on the X3 over the Rocker which is still in waiting for the day my beloved Clip+ finally bites the dust.  Come that day I will probably wait and see how the Rocker battery life works out in practise over a normal working day, maybe with a lunchtime recharge.  Usually play around 5 hours of music over 8 hours (paused for 3 hours).
Title: Re: New DAP suggestions plz :)
Post by: Duceboia on August 11, 2018, 06:36:54 PM
Rocker battery for me lasts 5/6'hours.
X3 lasts much longer. I've charged on sunday, played every afternoon (being at work 06:00-14:00'that week) the next sunday battery were drained.obviously not heavy display use, only player on, resume my biiig playlist, listening.
Title: Re: New DAP suggestions plz :)
Post by: hieple193 on August 30, 2018, 11:15:54 PM
You can't have 10h playback with Rocker(about 5h, no bluetooth), but it very little time to get full battery charge (1h). I think Rocker is a good choice with price