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Title: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: mrmagic526 on May 17, 2006, 11:43:17 PM
Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?

Maybe make a separate build for that one?  It helps on battery life.

Oh by the way I love rockbox and I will send some cash when I get some money owed to me by my roommate later this month.

Any chance of getting ms pacman on the pacbox?

Magicman
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: saratoga on May 18, 2006, 12:53:38 AM
Its already supported.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: mrmagic526 on May 18, 2006, 02:17:49 AM
I'm using the latest cvs build and when I go to the INFO page it says buffer 29.573MB it's not using the 64mb of ram that the 5g 60 gig has.  the 30 gig version has 32 meg.  So it seems that rockbox is treating all of the 5g ipods the same even though one has double the ram.


Magicman
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: linuxstb on May 18, 2006, 02:56:22 AM
There are no developers with a 60GB 5g, so no-one has been able to add support for the extra memory.

Your best chance of getting support added is to learn how to compile Rockbox from source and how to apply patches, and then come to the Rockbox IRC and try and find a developer willing to try to develop a patch with your help as a tester.  But don't ask until after Rockbox 3.0 is released...
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: mrmagic526 on May 18, 2006, 04:05:34 AM
Cool I'll wait until 3.0 and I'll be MORE than happy to help.

Magicman
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: mrmagic526 on May 18, 2006, 02:52:13 PM
Is there somewhere I can go that can teach me how to compile and patch rockbox?  I'd love to help out in anyway I can.

Edit.... Never mind I found the info in the wiki.   Guess it requires linux?  Well I guess I could use my xbox to compile since I have gentoox linux installed on it.

Magicman
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: that_asian_guy on May 18, 2006, 04:53:09 PM
doesnt require linux, just vmware player
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: orfax on May 20, 2006, 07:48:54 PM
Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
I believe its there already. I think all it needs is a small adjustment in the configure script prior to building (ie change memory=32 to memory=64). I'll give it a go and let you know in the next couple of days.

Is there somewhere I can go that can teach me how to compile and patch rockbox?...
Guess it requires linux?  Well I guess I could use my xbox to compile since I have gentoox linux installed on it.
What about using cygwin on a PC.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: saratoga on May 20, 2006, 10:47:46 PM
Well I feel stupid.  I thought all the 5Gs had 64 MB of memory, and thus the script would work.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: mrmagic526 on May 22, 2006, 12:12:17 AM
Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
I believe its there already. I think all it needs is a small adjustment in the configure script prior to building (ie change memory=32 to memory=64). I'll give it a go and let you know in the next couple of days.

Is there somewhere I can go that can teach me how to compile and patch rockbox?...
Guess it requires linux?  Well I guess I could use my xbox to compile since I have gentoox linux installed on it.
What about using cygwin on a PC.

Awesome.... I tried figuring out how to compile.....  I suck....  If you need someone to test your compilation and the 64 meg buffer, I'm all for it.  Just let me know I'll give you my email address and you can email me the file.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: mrmagic526 on May 22, 2006, 12:16:42 AM
Well I feel stupid.  I thought all the 5Gs had 64 MB of memory, and thus the script would work.

Yup they added the extra ram to the 60 gig to increase the buffer and to be able to load more songs on one disk access to increase the battery life.  The 60 gig has an "advertised" battery life of 20 hours (doubt anyone sees that) and the 30 gig I think has an advertised battery life of 12 hours.  That's one of the main reasons I chose the 60 gig.  Honestly I only have used 20 gigs of mine even with videos, about 4000 songs, ipod linux and rockbox. 

I go in waves.  Sometimes I go all out and try to find a ton of music then I stop for a while.  Just depends on if I'm hunting for a song or not.  When I do I end up getting a ton more.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: ZAPPAJOE on May 22, 2006, 07:45:25 AM
Any other advantages to compiling for 64MB other than battery life ?  For me the battery life isn't a real issue since I use my iPod with a car adapter 90% of the time.  Just curious if I should look into learning how to compile on my own . . .
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: Llorean on May 22, 2006, 11:26:34 AM
The 64mb won't affect anything but battery life. The disk will spin up half as often, and since that's a major drain, you'll see a decent improvement _if_ you listen to playlists straight through and almost never browse/skip. If you make a habit of skipping songs alot, and browse your catalogue alot to pick new tracks, the 64mb can actually mean worse life, if it's spending time buffering 64mb of ram, but you only listen to 20mb of music, on average, before picking another song somewhere and forcing a rebuffer.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: Murmur2k on May 22, 2006, 05:20:17 PM
Interesting point Llorean
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: Llorean on May 22, 2006, 07:30:56 PM
The main reason 64mb isn't used right now is that we don't have a way of detecting if there's 32 or 64mb on the device, and don't want to have two builds for the 5G, one for 30gig models and one for 64gig models. As it is, just changing the RAM size define isn't enough. A few more changes probably need to be set throughout the code, but it's not big stuff, so a custom compile for yourself with those changes shouldn't be too tough. I don't know which ones exactly to make, but if you show up on IRC, someone there might be able to answer, and once one of you has done it, maybe post what values need to be changed to help others?
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: orfax on May 22, 2006, 09:27:08 PM
Awesome.... I tried figuring out how to compile.....  I suck....  If you need someone to test your compilation and the 64 meg buffer, I'm all for it.  Just let me know I'll give you my email address and you can email me the file.
Thanks for the offer. I have a 60 GB ipod video, so I use that for testing, but if I get something working I'll put it up here for further testing.

Now, I've compiled with memory=64, and while it boots and I can browse my files and go through most options, thats about all it does. When I try to play an mp3, I get a "codec failure" message. When I try to start a module, I get an "Incompatible model". On the info screen, I see the Buffer is at 61.303.

For any memory values over 32 I get these problems (I've tried 64, 48, 34). This may be due to memory address checks, but I'm not sure at this stage. However I set memory to 32 & 16 and that worked fine.

I'll look further.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: orfax on May 22, 2006, 09:31:07 PM
... but if you show up on IRC, someone there might be able to answer...
OK, I was going to anyway in the next few days. Thanks.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: treq on May 23, 2006, 12:23:12 AM
same thing here, compiling with memory=64 leads to incompatible model & codec failure....
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: housebox on May 23, 2006, 10:18:39 AM
i agree with that, i also tried a lot using the 64mb ram of my 5g. couldn't get it to work...
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: orfax on May 26, 2006, 02:53:29 AM
Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Just a quick update. It appears I have 64 MB working. The changes to get it working are:

tools/configure: set memory=64

and

firmware/crt0.S: change line 72:
mov    r1, #0x3a00
to
mov    r1, #0x7400

I believe this tells the memory controller how much memory (in pages?) to remap.

I'll post a little later with a build.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: orfax on May 26, 2006, 09:44:04 AM
An experimental build can be gotten here:
ipod5g-64MB (http://users.bigpond.net.au/orfax/rockbox-20060525-2345-ipod5g-64MB.zip)

This is a build of the 2006-05-25 23:45 CVS source with only the fix to allow the use of 64MB. It has no other patches applied.

Needless to say, its *only* for a 5th gen ipod with 64MB memory (ie 60Gig ipod video).

If anyone has any problems with it let me know.

I've used it for several hours so far without any problems.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: Markalexander on May 27, 2006, 05:52:51 AM
Thanks, that's working nicely for me.  :)
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: The_Gord on May 27, 2006, 09:46:20 AM
Has anyone using this build/patch notice any significant differences/benefits?  Because what Llorean said makes a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: mrmagic526 on May 27, 2006, 10:16:12 AM
It'll help with battery life....  I suggest making two builds for the Ipod video.  One for the 30 gig and one for the 60 gig.  Since that's what determines if it has 64 meg or 32 meg.  People are smart enough to know if they have 30 or 60 gig.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: mrmagic526 on May 27, 2006, 10:30:59 AM
then again you have this wonderful crazyapplerumors website with this.

Just one day after learning that it is the target of a lawsuit claiming the iPod might one day possibly under certain circumstances maybe hurt some guy in Louisiana’s ears, Apple has decided to discontinue sales to stupid people.

“We did a cost/benefit analysis,” said Chief Operating Officer Tim Cook, “And it clearly is not cost effective to continue to have stupid people as our customers.”

According to a detailed analysis by Apple’s finance group, the company loses more money from having to create overly detailed documentation, defend itself against inane lawsuits and field repeated support calls asking “Is there little men in mah iMac what make it run?!” than it makes in sales to these customers.

Nitwits, morons, dunderheads, idiots and boneheads will find themselves turned away from their local Apple Store starting March 1st.

Cook said “We needed to get some procedures in place so that our sales associates could tell the difference between a chowderhead, for example, and a customer that meets our new minimum intelligence quotient for purchasing an Apple product.”

The latest lawsuit spurred the company to take action after it realized that if it could face a lawsuit over something clearly listed as a warning in the product documentation from an individual who has not been damaged, it had simply lost control of the situation.

“We just didn’t know what else to do,” Cook said.

“We considered various other scenarios, from engraving the warning on the front of the iPod, printing it on the front of the box, using giant laser cannons to etch it on the face of the moon, showing up at customers houses periodically and screaming it into their faces, and simply discontinuing sales in Louisiana where I know folk are a little ‘diffurnt’.

“But ultimately we decided the determining factor was the relative intelligence of the purchaser, not the backward brand of hick banjo music they listen to.”

Some of the questions included in Apple’s training for sales associates include:

    * Is the purchaser repeatedly jabbing pointy objects such as knitting needles into his or her eyes?
    * Is the purchaser drooling openly or slurping noisily from a juice box?
    * Is the purchaser wearing any combination of the following items: rainbow suspenders, flood pants, a pork pie hat, a button that says “Kiss me, I’m [anything]!”, a flounder or other fish, lederhosen (pending the opening of the Apple Store Stüttgart).

Cook said that the change is not expected to effect Apple’s revenue figures substantially as most stupid people also tend to be tasteless as well, and are therefore more likely to already be Windows users.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: michael.conner on May 27, 2006, 12:40:08 PM
An experimental build can be gotten here:
ipod5g-64MB (http://users.bigpond.net.au/orfax/rockbox-20060525-2345-ipod5g-64MB.zip)

This is a build of the 2006-05-25 23:45 CVS source with only the fix to allow the use of 64MB. It has no other patches applied.

Needless to say, its *only* for a 5th gen ipod with 64MB memory (ie 60Gig ipod video).

If anyone has any problems with it let me know.

I've used it for several hours so far without any problems.

I just installed it on mine.   Nice work!   Once the buffer filled up with an album, I was able to skip from track to track -- all the way to the next-to-last song -- without it accessing the disk.  This will seriously do wonders for the battery life!
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: Murmur2k on May 27, 2006, 07:24:52 PM
Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Just a quick update. It appears I have 64 MB working. The changes to get it working are:

tools/configure: set memory=64

and

firmware/crt0.S: change line 72:
mov    r1, #0x3a00
to
mov    r1, #0x7400

I believe this tells the memory controller how much memory (in pages?) to remap.

I'll post a little later with a build.

Orfax - when do you do the set memory=64 bit? do you run ../tools/configure then select N still?
Thanks
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: orfax on May 27, 2006, 08:15:51 PM
Orfax - when do you do the set memory=64 bit? do you run ../tools/configure then select N still?
Thanks
Modify the configure script and crt0.S before running "../tools/configure", and then build as you normally would (ie select 15 and then select N).

If you want to rebuild another version with a different memory allocation, you will have to remove the build directory, and start all over.

Has anyone using this build/patch notice any significant differences/benefits?
I'll get a better idea when I get back to work (which is where I use my iPod). Though I've only just bought it, and I haven't even run down the battery all the way yet (so I'm probably not a good judge).
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: mrmagic526 on May 28, 2006, 03:56:12 AM
The main reason 64mb isn't used right now is that we don't have a way of detecting if there's 32 or 64mb on the device

I'm assuming there's a way to determine how large of a hard drive is in the unit.  You could use that.  Have it detect that and then for the 60 gig have it use 64 meg and if it find s a 30 gig hard drive have it use 32.  Just a random thought.

Magicman
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: Llorean on May 28, 2006, 03:58:05 AM
They're working on a better way to detect RAM, because it's possible that future device (and 80gig 5G?) will happen, and it'd be better not to depend on HD size. Especially since if a good method is determined, one could use it for other targets that may have multiple RAM sizes, if I understand.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: michael.conner on May 30, 2006, 12:07:20 AM
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodRuntime

10hrs, 15 minutes using 64MB buffer.  Battery meter seems to be more of a guesstimate than anything.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: mnhnhyouh on May 30, 2006, 02:16:50 AM
Can you run your test on an mp3 192k album? I know from the tests run at Misticriver that on a iRiver H320 ogg puts a hit on battery life...

h
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: Llorean on May 30, 2006, 02:18:13 AM
To get a fair comparison, you'll need the exact same settings with the same playlist running the 32mb build and then the 64mb build and comparing.

Otherwise it's pretty much useless.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: michael.conner on May 30, 2006, 11:22:15 PM
To get a fair comparison, you'll need the exact same settings with the same playlist running the 32mb build and then the 64mb build and comparing.

Otherwise it's pretty much useless.

Point taken -- am running the same exact playlist using the 32mb build.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: orfax on May 31, 2006, 03:54:49 AM
Since I haven't got any negative feedback I've submitted a patch to the tracker for the crt0.S change.

As Llorean has stated they don't want to add another build, it is still up to individuals to enable the 64MB in configure.

You can reference the patch here:
FS#5472 — ipod 64MB memory  (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5472)
 
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: streetsurfer on May 31, 2006, 06:22:45 AM
so as far as I can understand I need to apply this patch directly to a CVS build and not like some of the other patches and just copy over the existing file?
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: ryran on May 31, 2006, 12:57:08 PM
got my 60g video today .... and I JUST downloaded your build. I'm running it /w no problems so far
as in, a few minutes. *grin*
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: orfax on June 01, 2006, 09:25:47 PM
so as far as I can understand I need to apply this patch directly to a CVS build and not like some of the other patches and just copy over the existing file?
Not so much a CVS *build*, but CVS source code. The patch from the tracker is changes to source code. You will need the source, apply the patch and build.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: mrmagic526 on June 01, 2006, 11:41:49 PM
ahhaaaa I finally got this who compiling thing working......


Just built todays cvs with the modifications...

Now to figure out more patches that might work.....
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: orfax on June 02, 2006, 08:59:55 PM
it is still up to individuals to enable the 64MB in configure.

You can reference the patch here:
FS#5472 — ipod 64MB memory  (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5472)
At a request from linuxstb, I've updated the patch so it also adjusts configure. After the patch has been applied, you do *not* need to do any further adjustments to configure.

When you run configure, there will be a new option, "22", to select. This is the ipodvideo 64MB build.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: asterix2112 on June 04, 2006, 06:15:35 PM
Here's my vote to say I would have no problem with seperate builds for the 30 and 60 (or more hopefully it can be detected automatically).  I love the Rockbox, and only bought a digital audio player when I found it as no other could do what I wanted.  I got the 60GB IPod partially because of the battery life, and while I am perfectly comfortable compiling programs in UNIX, to be totally honest I don't have the time to get into it that much.  Anyway, just my 2 cents.

- John
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: mrmagic526 on June 06, 2006, 02:35:02 AM
If I could host the file... which I think I can actually somewhere.  I could post a weekly build for 60 gig ipod video's with 64 meg patch enabled.  I wouldn't mind.  That way we can keep current with the builds at least weekly.  I'm still not good at patching but I am able to do the 64 meg patch either manually or with his patch. 

It'll be the only included patch that I use for now.  I'm still learning patching and compiling.  Last one I tried I had many errors in the compiling due to several different patches that didn't work.  Probably my own fault but I did compile one with just the 64 meg patch by itself it worked fine.  I have it on my ipod working great.

Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: ryran on June 06, 2006, 06:28:37 AM
If anyone needs hosting for binaries I've got massive amounts of unused bandwidth. Contact me on aim/yahoo or ryan [attt) b19.org
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: mehtadone on June 06, 2006, 07:29:17 AM
Same here. WebDav already setup. Pm me if you would like hosting for the builds, pages etc.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: mrmagic526 on June 06, 2006, 01:12:57 PM
Here's a build I'll call the Mark of the Beast day build..... since today is 6/6/6

http://rapidshare.de/files/22379903/rockbox.zip.html

The only patch applied is the 64 meg patch.  Installed and tested on my ipod.

Magicman
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: asterix2112 on June 06, 2006, 09:06:27 PM
Got it compiled and working!  Awesome...  I think (I actually don't REALLY know if it's doing anything ;D)

- John
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: gurgle on June 08, 2006, 02:47:34 AM
Here's a build I'll call the Mark of the Beast day build..... since today is 6/6/6

http://rapidshare.de/files/22379903/rockbox.zip.html

The only patch applied is the 64 meg patch.  Installed and tested on my ipod.

Magicman

Ok, sorry I'm completely retarded, I installed your build and it is still showing up as 32 megs... do I need to configure something in the menu to access the additional memory? And yes, I have the 60 Gig version  ;D
Thanks
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: ryran on June 08, 2006, 06:36:13 AM
Can't say that his build should work, since I haven't tested it... but I can say there's nothing to configure with the 64mb patch. So either he compiled it wrong or something went wrong when you unzipped it. ;)
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: ryran on June 08, 2006, 01:03:03 PM
I just compiled a build for myself that includes the 64mb patch, the accelerated scrolling patch, and the latest (obo just updated today) unplug/pause patch. Since I use a minimal text-based (coded by me) wps, that's really all I care about atm.

Anyone can download it here: b19.org/6-08pause64scroll.zip
---EDIT---
See post below (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4276.msg36807#msg36807).
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: gurgle on June 08, 2006, 10:50:30 PM
I just compiled a build for myself that includes the 64mb patch, the accelerated scrolling patch, and the latest (obo just updated today) unplug/pause patch. Since I use a minimal text-based (coded by me) wps, that's really all I care about atm.

Anyone can download it here: b19.org/6-08pause64scroll.zip (http://b19.org/6-08pause64scroll.zip)

Hey fantasic, thanks for sharing your build :)
64 Megs is now showing up, and the accelerated scrolling was sorely missed last night, so it's a welcome addition. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: ryran on June 09, 2006, 10:08:20 AM
hey YOU'RE WELCOME! glad to see me spending an hour at work not working (figuring this whole thing out) actually helped someone else! :D
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: asterix2112 on June 09, 2006, 04:23:39 PM
Where can I download this unplug/pause patch?  I don't see it in the patches section.

Thanks,

- John
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: ryran on June 12, 2006, 07:30:25 AM
@ asterix: here's the patch page (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4899). download the latest version (at the very bottom)
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: mrmagic526 on June 13, 2006, 01:54:54 PM
Here's a build I'll call the Mark of the Beast day build..... since today is 6/6/6

http://rapidshare.de/files/22379903/rockbox.zip.html

The only patch applied is the 64 meg patch.  Installed and tested on my ipod.

Magicman

Ok, sorry I'm completely retarded, I installed your build and it is still showing up as 32 megs... do I need to configure something in the menu to access the additional memory? And yes, I have the 60 Gig version  ;D
Thanks

Nope I installed it on mine without changing anything and it says 61. something free.....  It worked for me.  Don't know why it didn't work for you.

Magicman
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: mrmagic526 on June 14, 2006, 02:53:04 AM
http://rapidshare.de/files/23016815/rockbox.zip.html

That's today's build.... Just the 64 meg patch is applied.  Tested and working on my 60 gig ipod video 61.574 mb free.

Magicman
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: ryran on June 16, 2006, 12:55:01 PM
I just compiled and started using a new build today. It includes the 64mb patch, the autopause patch (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4899), and my new best friend, the playnav/quickexit patch (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5294). I stopped using the accelerated scrolling patch for the moment 'cause it just totally doesn't work well for me [with small fonts and a big screen].

http://b19.org/6-16-apause-64-playnav.zip
To be crystal clear for any newcomers: this build is ONLY for 60gig video ipods.
---------
edit: updates to this will be posted in this thread (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5019.0) from here on out.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: lhauser on June 23, 2006, 11:06:37 AM
Hey, guys. I just patched and compiled a new Rockbox with scroll patch and 64MB patch, based on yesterday's CVS updates. The patching seemed to work, scrolling is definitely faster, but the buffer on my 60GB iPod Video still shows only 32MB in the buffer. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: ryran on June 23, 2006, 11:09:57 AM
Perhaps you didn't pick the right target before you ran make? The patch adds a new target.. #22, I believe (or not--it's been a while), as opposed to adding code that detects which ipod it's running on.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: lhauser on June 25, 2006, 09:22:40 AM
Perhaps you didn't pick the right target before you ran make? The patch adds a new target.. #22, I believe (or not--it's been a while), as opposed to adding code that detects which ipod it's running on.

Nope, I absolutely chose #22 as the target.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: ryran on June 25, 2006, 12:08:39 PM
Oh well darn. Don't know what to tell ya... quite a few others are compiling custom builds with this patch. :(
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: lhauser on June 25, 2006, 01:53:07 PM
Oh well darn. Don't know what to tell ya... quite a few others are compiling custom builds with this patch. :(

Yeah, I know. I'll try it again in the next day or so, see if I can make it work...just wanted to see if there was a general problem I wasn't hearing about!

Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: tekstyle on June 25, 2006, 04:26:05 PM
i put julius's 64mb cache build on my 30gb 5g and it keeps freezing after like 5 seconds of playback.  override it with the non-64mb version of julius's build and it works fine. 

whats the point of the 64mb cache?
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: ryran on June 25, 2006, 04:32:02 PM
whats the point of the 64mb cache?
Only the 60gig ipod video has 64mb of ram; yours has 32mb. So, don't use the 64mb version.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: orfax on June 25, 2006, 08:00:55 PM
Hey, guys. I just patched and compiled a new Rockbox with scroll patch and 64MB patch, based on yesterday's CVS updates. The patching seemed to work, scrolling is definitely faster, but the buffer on my 60GB iPod Video still shows only 32MB in the buffer. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
If its only showing 32MB it hasn't been applied. After you have patched and then run configure, check the Makefile in your build directory for a line that looks like this:
export MEMORYSIZE=64
if it is different it will not build with a 64MB buffer.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: lhauser on June 25, 2006, 09:09:43 PM
Thanks, Orfax, I'll look at that.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: Arvidor on June 29, 2006, 02:49:18 AM
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I just compiled and started using a new build today. It includes the 64mb patch, the autopause patch, and my new best friend, the playnav/quickexit patch. I stopped using the accelerated scrolling patch for the moment 'cause it just totally doesn't work well for me [with small fonts and a big screen].

http://b19.org/6-16-apause-64-playnav.zip
To be crystal clear for any newcomers: this build is ONLY for 60gig video ipods.

Could you upload that one again please. The Link is down...

MANY THX
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: ryran on June 29, 2006, 06:27:55 AM
I removed it--updates will be in this thread (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5019) from now on.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: mrmagic526 on July 01, 2006, 02:29:11 PM
Here's a July 1st with just the 64 meg patch installed.  I decided against that one major custom build that's going around since I don't use the autoscrobber and other things that tend to access the disk which cause the battery to not last as long.

http://rapidshare.de/files/24669302/rockbox.zip.html

magicman
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: orfax on August 03, 2006, 07:42:51 AM
it is still up to individuals to enable the 64MB in configure.

You can reference the patch here:
FS#5472 — ipod 64MB memory  (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5472)
At a request from linuxstb, I've updated the patch so it also adjusts configure. After the patch has been applied, you do *not* need to do any further adjustments to configure.

When you run configure, there will be a new option, "22", to select. This is the ipodvideo 64MB build.
For those that are using this patch, I've updated it to set the ipodvideo 64MB build to "24" as there are a couple of new builds (taking 22 and 23).
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: Febs on August 03, 2006, 02:36:57 PM
Following Bagder's suggestion on FS, I posted a new patch that prompts the user to select which model he/she has once the ipod video is selected in configure, rather than creating a separate entry for it.  Let me know what you think.
Title: Re: Can we get support for the 64 meg cache instead of 32 on 5g 60gig?
Post by: orfax on August 03, 2006, 09:57:42 PM
Febs, looks good. I did a small change to the paths for the change to configure but otherwise it worked well.